Yeah..I agree. Time to end the stupidity of trying to converse with Surf. I'll wait til Baron gets this new thing going.
I haven't read the thread thoroughly so my comments will probably overlap most others. I feel the site could continue as is and let it die of old age and infirmaty. And I feel a bridge can be added. The bridge would lead to a scratch foundation that is modern as can be. Then, threads, in various market forums, could be operated in a market oriented streaming context operated by the thread OP (periodically scheduled). The forum sponsor could bear the costs. Also think valuable archives owned by ET (come to them via Utube). For example, By using GTM or Skype a screen of the market would be seen and commentary would be via a microphone where sound would be heard. A chat room text would be running as well. A lot of forums could be in an information orientation whereby the OP would cite/and or post documentation to be either discussed or just presented. A building block for handling contemporary forms of information could be supported by the forum sponsor(s). Multi forum sponsors could be used throughout to defray costs where the sponsor has financial interests. I think a two tiered forum thread arrangement is now a timely idea. When markets or information are not the themes, then the debate aspect of forums needs to be managed. The worn out methods (ignore and OP control and moderators) did have their day but now there is AI and it can replace human error. Debate is not an educational venue. In debate the use of logic and agreement is paramount. Terminating discussion of unprovables is a requirement. A first order of business for any participant is to agree to disagree. (a system of coloration of inital posts and follow on is easy, cheap and informative). A person can easily change sides if he desires by changing coloration of his posts. I do not believe knowledge and skills can be left by the wayside any longer. As a person enters membership he can qualify himself quite easily by going through a sophisticaed but simple filter that leads him to where he wants to go AND AT THE SAME TIME CLASSIFIES HIM FOR THE BENEFIT of others with whom he will come into contact. See other posts for the concept details. The above paragraph has a basic purpose. That is to separate potential members into four categories: those who wish to educate or be educated or journal their experience or benefit from the jounaled experience of others. I find these categories to be mutually exclusive (I know this is simplistic to most) and if treated as such, then the person in the given category trumps any other person he runs into as a member. This eliminates people from "telling anything" to other people. It puts the listener in charge. You may need two or more memberships. In these four categoies there is a way to use modern social chat methods. The method sponsors and method beneficiaries can support the costs of these operations. Many non data flow information suppliers (media sponsors) are missing in ET as it stands. They need a place to present and their users need a place to "react". Social chat methods are applicable in support of the media sponsors of this segment (a collection of forums concept). Exchange of property and services is imporant to members. So is making face to face contact. Fortunately, that is already available and healthy in the old ET. Drag this across the bridge. I know I have only covered a few things. To summarize: Those who like things as they are, they stay where they are. Those who are still open minded and want to stride into the future, approach the bridge and go through the entrance to the NEW and IMPROVED ET. They filter themsleves and are moved to where they wish to be. They get reacquainted and strive in a positive atmosphere by taking all the positive steps and actions they wish. The two big things that can go away are a peson having the right to silence another (he won't be there in the first place) and the illogical chatter of a mistaken person trying to prove a negative (he no longer has the opportunity). Those things stay on the other side of the bridge. Obviously, all the above is not going to happen here. It takes too much coordination of capital and software. But what is nice is that it is happening somewhere in pieces as we speak. Who actually does this? Leaders. In ET, there are the member resourses to get the above job done quickly. My bet is that in a few weeks this very thread could turn into one of the modern miracles of modern times. Think of all the youth gangs in America and abroad. Let them be the noobies of the future of retail trading. Think of all the college kids that cannot get jobs and just marry their sig others and begin a great life. Think of Joe Blow on mainsteet in a sports jacket from high school. What if all this war could be stopped by market participation (kids are the boots on the ground) Markets will always have room for more and more traders. Why can't all the talent presently in ET help Baron get a wonderful model for the future rolling right here and now? There is absolutely no reason whatsoever. It is not debateable. All those new things all over the place are really portals to the new ET. ET has what it takes to HELP others become part of the gobal future. ET can empower noobies. Noobs>>>ET<<<<talent HELP change the world.
I second this motion. A great place for real time calls and conversing between trades. Twitter functionality to the chat posts and threads is also a must. For example, I have over 1000 active market participants and friends who follow my moves and Thoughts and comments on twitter. It would be great to be able to link back here-- it would get the word out to the right folks about elitetrader who then may want to contribute -- not to mention others here who likely have much larger followings who could discover elite this way it's win win for everyone. Thanks, surf
You spent a handful of posts here telling others to put the marketsurfer on ignore if they don't like what "he" has to say yet you can't even take your own advice. Very lame, Rodsurfer.
hy·poc·ri·sy /hiˈpäkrisē/ Noun The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.
As I remember it, your infrequent visits to the old ET chat room were short and your main interest was gossip. Never did I hear any calls or market related comments from you. Sorry, but that is the honest truth. I am sure they're there for the entertainment and not any perceived value . Getting a following on twitter is not exactly rocket science, ask any internet marketeer.
From what I understand, one can pay to have twitter followers so it's really pretty meaningless to brag about having 1000 or so twitter followers.
I'm not accusing you, only stating that anyone can buy users. Therefore, it's not a big deal to have many followers.
Please help keep this thread on focus-- its not about marketsurfer or yourself or anyone else-- its about the future of elite trader. Please Keep it On Topic. thank you, surf PS-- now 47% vote to keep it the same-- I say keep it the same with perhaps more aggressive moderation of the trolls and social media functionality.