Moving average winner

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by wwatson1, Jun 30, 2003.

  1. Screwed that up....

    Here is the real equity curve...


    peace

    axeman
     
    #11     Jun 30, 2003
  2. wwatson1,

    Are you using any other rules?
    My numbers dont look remotely like yours.

    I enter long on ema(10) > ema(200)
    and exit on ema(10) < ema(200)

    Reverse for shorts.

    .25 slippage on entry and exit

    Holds over night, and only enters/exits on crossovers.


    ============== SUMMARY ===========
    Net 803.0

    Winners 299.0
    Losers 825.0
    Trade Count 1127.0
    % Win 26.53061224489796
    Break even 3.0
    Profit factor 1.165183851889946

    Avg Win 18.943979933110366
    Avg Loss 5.892424242424243
    Avg Trade 0.712511091393079


    ============== SUMMARY ===========

    peace

    axeman
     
    #12     Jun 30, 2003
  3. So the system did have a drawdown of almost 50% at some point (the big drop from 400 to 200), which is to be expected for a simple system like that. I prefer systems with drawdowns below 30%.
     
    #13     Jun 30, 2003
  4. Even worse...

    Here are the results for the BIG SP back to 82
    (NOTE: The data does not come forward enough, so
    thats why the big dip at the end is missing, which you
    see in the 1st equity curve )

    This is the system developers paradox.
    Look back far enough, and everything stops working.
    So should you trade it or not?? :D


    peace

    axeman



    ============== SUMMARY ===========
    Net -1878.3500000000004

    Winners 1010.0
    Losers 4142.0
    Trade Count 5169.0
    % Win 19.539562778100215
    Break even 17.0
    Profit factor 0.8183598377340793

    Avg Win 8.378910891089113
    Avg Loss 2.496632061805892
    Avg Trade -0.3633875024182628


    ============== SUMMARY ===========
     
    #14     Jun 30, 2003
  5. Here is the ecurve of the ES system ive been working
    on for a while...and trying to finalize.

    peace

    axeman
     
    #15     Jun 30, 2003
  6. that's a pretty sweet curve axe. what's under the hood? :)
     
    #16     Jun 30, 2003
  7. I could tell ya, but then id have to kill ya :D

    Yeah.... looks good so far, but will drive me CRAZY trying
    to trade it. Trades very rarely, as you can see. :mad:

    Seems quite robust as well. Need to verify it in several
    more ways. Then ill consider a 6 month test period
    with 1 lot.


    peace

    axeman



     
    #17     Jun 30, 2003
  8. that's pretty conservative, but there's no sense in throwing cash away unnecessarily. Good luck with it. It looks consistent.

    Will that be the first ever time you go live with a mech system?
     
    #18     Jun 30, 2003
  9. I have done 2 full auto systems so far.

    This is a first for me though.

    Its my first statistical based system, developed
    in a "tradestation" style... aka datamining, etc, etc..

    So I have to be real conservative. Im still a newbie
    systems developer.

    Im in the "prove to myself im not curve fitting, or fooling
    myself again phase" for this system.


    peace

    axeman



     
    #19     Jun 30, 2003
  10. I'm also definitely a newbie systems developer. I've tried a lot of systems, though definitely not put as much in yet as I believe you have. I remember and appreciate your posts on my systems thread when I was starting out a while back. Good luck with this system. I'm trading a mech system now, and I will never go back to seat of my pants scalping. I have found so far that a system with infrequent trades seems to be a good recipe for unwavering adherence to the rules. Good luck!
     
    #20     Jun 30, 2003