Most useful things you learned in school that apply to trading?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by pinetboltz, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. pinetboltz

    pinetboltz

    so in light of the recent reports of the pay-to-play admissions scandal (or rather, pay to 'pretend-to-play' varsity sports, if you get my drift) -- just wondering what are some of the most useful things everyone learned at school that apply to trading?

    a few things that stand out to me are,

    a) picking the right opportunities
    at one point ppl in my major had to enroll in a pretty much mandatory upper level math course that was offered at 2 time slots - one with a 'new'ish/untested professor at an inconvenient time slot & another with a guy who was famous for being a tough grader/set hard exams, etc. due to the tough grader's reputation, some of us decided to just go with the new guy and the inconvenient time slot, who actually turned out to be quite alright. over several weeks, more ppl joined our group despite the inconvenient timeslot, etc - but one of my friends, let's call him Doug, decided to stick it out for the 'education' of the rigorous proofs and perspective. He ended up disappearing for most of the semester & was cagey when ppl asked him about it afterwards.. The rest of us stuck together for the study/homework sessions and got mostly good grades, & i don't think our class learned any less than his either
    --> sometimes it's like there are no bonus points/ extra credit for picking the hard stuff to do

    b) RTFM usually isn't too bad/ as agonizing as it sounds
    one of the courses we had was with a lecturer who basically had you learn everything yourself, lol. the in-class sessions were just Q&A for the most part, where ppl asked questions about this and that, socratic method maybe works for a few humanities/philosophizing courses but not really for STEM, esp. in upper division course with ppl of different backgrounds, etc. so after being confused for some time, i decided to just block out time to read the original texts instead of relying on bits of q&a that seemed to be disjointed, and even though it took a lot of time at first, slowly things started to make sense. then things got easier to understand. but of course, most ppl didn't do that so he curved everyone upwards anyways

    c) things that are 'too good to be true' occasionally are...true

    this is somewhat random, but one time close to finals i got a phone call with a out of state caller ID and sales-y voice saying i won a macbook. lol, i was super busy & had no time dealing with that nonsense so just hung up. then the person called again - and again - and then left a voicemail. i was kinda annoyed but didn't think much of it. until they tried again at lunchtime a couple days later using another line, this time with a local phone, so i picked up & when i heard their voice again i could feel my temper rising. then the caller maybe expecting my reaction calmly asked if my student id was XXXX etc and then explained the situation - i'd participated in some random study a bit earlier that semester walking through campus when they asked you a few questions etc, and somehow out of the hundreds/thousand plus students they surveyed, i actually won the computer they had as a prize (which i didnt know even know about either). Lol, then they had me go into the office, where i was kinda embarrassed to meet the sales-y voice in person & smile & say thanks, etc. Got to say, i felt super apologetic / thought they were very decent for letting me keep the computer when they have easily 'moved on' to the next name on the list after i'd hung up then ignored their calls multiple times
    --> sometimes there are instances when the money/reward/opportunity just presents itself for the taking and all one has to do is maybe not 'hang up the phone' on the caller
     
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  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    F=MA
     
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  3. padutrader

    padutrader

    price action is incomplete unless you understand time action as well....
    for example a range is where price is a band
    but that also means that market spends more time there and if it spends more time below a moving average then that is very useful information to base your trading decisions upon
     
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  4. smallfil

    smallfil

    c) Does not really apply to this case. Something for nothing cases are like those telling you how you can make $1,000,000 in the stockmarket without addressing how much monies you need to put up, does talk about the risks of losing your monies and just peddles the dream that if you attend their expensive training for thousands of dollars, you will become a very good trader making monies in the stockmarket. There are no free lunches.
     
  5. cafeole

    cafeole

    Nothing. An engineering education is counter to trading, imo.
     
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  6. padutrader

    padutrader

    Amen...

    10 years back i was given trading secrets by a real pro...even then to understand that , took me ten years
     
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  7. Holly molly. Aren’t you aka godoftrader at one point? Another member here were wondering where were you? He thought you may have blown up your trading account trading the Indian market.
     
  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    Garbage in garbage out.
     
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  9. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    1) e
    By FAR the single best thing I learned in school that applies to trading.
    e is all *over* the place, but it is especially prominent (in my mind) in,

    2) N(µ,σ)
    which would be the home turf of the Central Limit Theorem (where all good Mean Reversion theorists go to hang out in safety, put their feet up, and drink club soda).

    3) (Chicago School) Price Theory
    A'la Stigler, Friedman, Becker; and subsuming a fine semi-strong Efficient Markets Hypothesis.
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    With those three things, and a thousand monkeys+typewriters, I could put together everything else -- starting with Black Scholes Merton -- which would be #4, if I had to put a #4.
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    4) EMAs, if I had to pick the least glorious one, it'd be SMAs and EMAs. Learned them over an evening for an MBA marketing course that, over the entire semester, I'd probably put in 4 hours, and two of it were on this little project, whipped out in a single evening. Turns out, I used that little chunk of learning every time I would put data into a time sequence. "Hey! That's back to trading!" :D
     
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  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    "Don't sleep with pigs". (?)
     
    #10     Mar 19, 2019
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