Most Useful Technical Indicators

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Investorsources, Oct 12, 2005.

  1. On 5 min ES use DOM or ES. DOM is not related to chart duration.
    focus on spiking monitoring (meaning monitor for the spike of the peak and trough)

    combine with:

    2 min volume on the YM. Look for R2R and B2B between peaks and troughs.

    They come as close to each other (milliseconds if you are a software programmer usinga gating signal approach) as you need for a composite signal. Gate with an or>>>and>>>>or as if it were a band pass filter of two signals. OR is the wakeup call, AND is the actionable gate duration and OR is the shutdown of the optimum profit taking and reentry on the opposite side of the market. The filter for the 2 pair spike test on DOM is a time out type filter that itself goes through the three parts of the trading signal generator so you can use a pos feedback loop with both of them for yielding strength of signal (a statistically significant measure displayed usung a rainbow display). Do the R2R (B2B) filter the same way you would do filtering on either a Welles Wilder dip in RSI or a Connors-Hayward volatility compression/ expansion on price. Un fortunately this stuff is not in books as yet. It will be coming up in SCT trading in a couple of learning cycles when we all go to how to do programming for high money velocity trading. Most highly refined programs can be given boosts of 20% or more in performance by these kinds of tweeks if they have gotten into a reasonable level of money velocity (say greater than 2x (H-L) on the daily range as a basic software beginning point of quality).

    QED.
     
    #21     Oct 13, 2005
  2. The Red light Green light claims to be nothing easier.
     
    #22     Oct 13, 2005
  3. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Trend following works better in general than trend fading. Overbought/oversold indicators are overrated IMO.
    Not everybody. :)
     
    #23     Oct 13, 2005
  4. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    tape, literally
    [​IMG]
     
    #24     Oct 13, 2005
  5. duard

    duard

    Most usefult TA.

    The one you develop and/or tweak yourself insofar as you hopefully gain the understanding of what is going on. Hence the euphemistic "tape reading" so many talk about.

    Read Grob.

    Good Luck
     
    #25     Oct 13, 2005
  6. Indeed.
    Reading Jack is almost like reading tape.
    :D
     
    #26     Oct 14, 2005
  7. Posted by Investorsources on 10-12-05 11:19 AM: “What, in the opinion of the people on these boards, are the most useful technical indicators that when they are all saying the same thing will most likely result in profitable trading.”

    Four key points to learn:

    1. Stock prices are non-stationary noise.

    2. Most indictors are lowpass or bandpass filters and hence lag realtime. So they are good at saying how the stock was behaving nBars ago, but are of no value in predicting what the noise is going to do nBars into the future.

    3. Price is almost a realtime indicator (with a small lag equal to the SpeedOfLight*Distance + TransactionDelay).

    4. Money management is more important than the indicators that you use.

    No one is going to give you a Holy Grail indicator that will “most likely result in profitable trading.” Why would someone give a total stranger a basket of money? The only way you are going get an answer to your question is the old fashion way: Do the hard work to find the answer. Buy a software package that backtests combinations of indicators (e.g., strategies) and do the testing and statistical analysis yourself.
     
    #27     Oct 16, 2005
  8. Its OK to use indicators, as long as you don't give it the same weight as price and volume.

    EX: Price = Thanksgiving turkey
    Volume = Stuffing
    Indicators = gravy
     
    #28     Oct 16, 2005
  9. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Stock prices have non-stationary noise. If they were all noise, you wouldn't be able to trade them.
    Money management means squat without an edge. Good indicators will give you that edge. Mediocre indicators won't.
    :cool:
     
    #29     Oct 16, 2005

  10. volume = the cash that bought the thanksgiving turkey
     
    #30     Oct 16, 2005