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  1. I like 5,000 years a lot better than billions of years. And I like the rest of your post too.

    So, sorry, but I am still liking your post.:D
     
    #41     Jul 13, 2022
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    So the farther out a point source of light is, the faster God can make light travel to make it all equal 6000 years from our viewpoint. So God is the master of the warp drive. This means Star Trek is true.

     
    #42     Jul 13, 2022
  3. ph1l

    ph1l

    At least, now we have the answer to an old question.
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    :D
     
    #43     Jul 13, 2022
  4. This is one explanation of how it might have happened:


    The special initial conditions enable starlight from distant stars to arrive at Earth between the beginning and end of Earth’s Day Four. We propose that God by his own choice and design constrained the stellar creation events described in Genesis 1:17 to have spacetime coordinates just outside the past light cone of Earth’s Day Four but within the past light cone of Earth’s Day Five. This arrangement ensured that the first light from any such distant star would have reached Earth between the beginning and end of Earth’s Day Four (see Figure 1). The stellar creation events were further constrained such that each was causally independent from all the others. God could have accomplished this, for example, by arranging the creation events along a hyperbolic hypersurface whose slope is everywhere shallower than the slope of a light cone (see the hypersurface of stellar creation in Figure 1). The causal independence of stellar creation events ensures that they can be reckoned as simultaneous as described below.

    In addition to selecting the coordinates of all stellar creation events in spacetime in this special manner, God also prescribed the synchrony convention by which causally independent events are to be reckoned as simultaneous relative to one another. According to Special Relativity, simultaneity of causally independent events cannot be decided by physical experiments but instead is a matter of convention; it is a subjective choice (see Appendix A). We propose that God’s numbering of the creation days in Genesis 1 defines the synchrony convention for all events in the universe. By declaring that stellar creation events took place on Creation Day Four, God sovereignly prescribed that they should be reckoned as simultaneous with one another and with Earth’s Day Four. The synchrony convention can be stated more generally as follows: the Creation Time Coordinate (CTC) of an event is defined to be the elapsed time between that event and Creation Day Four at the event’s location, plus three days. An event’s CTC is therefore the elapsed time since “The Beginning” of Genesis 1:1. Consequently, two events are considered simultaneous (synchronous), if and only if, they have the same CTCs. The synchrony convention defined in this manner does not conflict with Special Relativity, because stellar creation events are causally independent. It does, however, introduce additional information which cannot be deduced from Special Relativity alone. Our definition of the CTCs parallels the Big Bang’s definition of “comoving time coordinates” (Liddle, 2015). Comoving time coordinates are defined as the elapsed time since the Big Bang within the reference frame of observers who perceive the universe as uniformly redshifted in all directions. Just like comoving time coordinates, the CTCs are defined with respect to a well-known inertial reference frame (the rest frame of the firmament) and a well-known initial event (the Creation).

    Because of the combination of the special initial conditions and synchrony convention described above, starlight emitted on Creation Day Four according to each star’s CTC also arrives at Earth on Creation Day Four according to the Earth’s CTC. The Distant Starlight Problem is resolved without violating Scripture or Special Relativity.

    https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1017&context=icc_proceedings
     
    #44     Jul 13, 2022
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Hershey! Is that you?
     
    #45     Jul 13, 2022
  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    That movie was a blight on all that is Hollywood. It does not exist in my universe.
     
    #46     Jul 13, 2022
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    No, it does not. Reading that is like reading "Null Physics". It is just gobbledy-gook that throws out fancy words that do not mean anything.


    "...Since we cannot (even in principle) ever measure the oneway speed of light, Einstein concludes that the one-way speed of light is not actually a property of nature, but a choice of man. Before Einstein, we might have assumed that the one-way speed of light (and thus, the corresponding synchrony convention) is a property of the universe—one that we are not clever enough to measure. But according to Einstein, the fact that we can never test a synchrony convention shows us something fundamental about the universe. Namely, it tells us that synchrony conventions are not a property of the universe but are instead a system of measurement invented by man..."

    Except, the "one-way"speed of light CAN be measured, and HAS been. Over and over and over again.
     
    #47     Jul 13, 2022
  8. One way speed of light.png
     
    #48     Jul 13, 2022
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    If the speed of light cannot be measured in one direction, then how come scientists know that a galaxy is x number of light years away? There is no reflector on earth that reflects light back the the producing galaxy, and then a sensor sending the data back to us.
     
    #49     Jul 13, 2022
  10. Exactly. They don't know and can't measure the speed of light from those stars to here. But that's not to say creationists don't believe that the speed of light is constant, because we do. It's just using the Theory of Relativity to explain special circumstances that enabled the starlight to reach earth at the end of the first 24 hour day of their creation.
     
    #50     Jul 13, 2022