Many states, South Carolina is one of them, had a large shift in their population...people leaving the state and new residents of the state. In addition, the Pandemic has a huge statistical impact on the deaths (people who can no longer vote) when looking at the party lines. Simply, more dead Republicans than Democrats in the Pandemic. Thus, 135k isn't a big number considering what happened in the Pandemic and the relocation of residents. More importantly, there was a bigger shift in other red states but that's another discussion when/if Trump is selected as the nominee for the Republicans and when/if Biden is selected as the nominee for the Democrats. A lot of red states lost many voting Republicans to COVID-19...they're dead...its a shocking number difference that very few talk about. In contrast, covidiots still think these voters are still alive because there was "no covid or no pandemic". Please do not express your political illusions on me. Simply, I never stated I "was happy" nor implied I "was happy". Doing such implies you think people must share the same political beliefs as you do although you're aware that I live in two progressive countries that are more progressive than the United States while being an American expat. Instead, I'm pointing out the facts that many seem to ignore, South Carolina was a pivotal state for Biden in the past. If I'm not mistaken, he was counted out because of poor performances in prior primaries but it was South Carolina that turned things around. In addition, do not forget that I'm a Republican who deeply hates Trump and views him as a trojan horse virus that entered the GOP through a hidden door along with having an understanding that Trump is dangerous to minorities (all minorities) except for those are rich, celebrity, MAGA supporters or wants money like he has even if its blood money. Therefore, I will vote for whomever has the best chance to beat Trump and I'm still a believer that Haley can turn things around and defeat Trump for the RNC nomination considering there are still a ton of ballots (primaries) to go through in the next few months. Yet, the only way Haley can defeat Trump...will be a felony conviction, a racial attack on an ethnic group that Trump comes across as supporting the group of the attack, or the group publicly states they support Trump while Trump refuses to denounce the hate group. Heck, he could just play dumb again like he did in his last two years and publicly say he never heard of these hate groups. Anyways, Biden and Trump are both in trouble but for different reasons. The problem with America...they strongly believe their politics should control their life. It's the reason why I told you in a recent message post while traveling through several states in the U.S... I saw more people wearing shirts..."South Will Rise Again". A Trump presidency will be pure chaos beyond America...chaos for the global well-being and only Biden can stop such from happening...only Biden right now today has the best chance. Yet, if someone else can defeat Trump or has a better chance than Biden...I will vote for that person too. Last of all, if I disliked Biden so much as you do, I would spend my time promoting another Democrat to defeat Biden in the primaries because the odds are high that Trump will be convicted and become a felon and that other Democrat/Independent can become President instead of Biden. Regardless, there's a very good chance with our judicial system/Supreme Court, I would not be shocked to see the SC weigh in and say a felon can continue serving as president of the United States of America should Trump be convicted before November 2024. Living abroad with the other 8 million expats who will be voting in the 2024 U.S. elections...its something Trump made the mistake of ignoring in 2020. wrbtrader
Hopefully not but if Trump becomes President again...America will be laughed at by the entire world for allowing a convicted felon (if he's convicted) to be the leader of America. More importantly, it will destabilize the world and economies...it will be a global disaster. Then again, it will show the truth about our judicial system which is full of hypocrisy/inequality when it allows a felon (if convicted) to become President of the United States of America. I will then expect the current 8 million American expats to double again to 16 million expats. wrbtrader
Thats gotta be the biggest bullshit excuse for losing half the voters that voted for you as I have ever seen
It's a fact, another fact... We will not set voting records here in 2024 as we did in 2020 when most people had nothing else to do except vote and/or protest. Further, a very large percentage of people have already decided they will not vote (stay on the sidelines) if there is a Trump/Biden repeat...they are that disgusted. Thus, whoever wins...the winner will be by a lesser vote number in comparison to 2020 when there was a Pandemic. Therefore, Biden winning by a landslide in SC by 135k could be a new norm in comparison to 2020. Note: I say landslide because of the percentage difference between those that lost to him in SC. wrbtrader
Trumps 2024 votes will be close to what they were in 2020. Biden will lose a massive amount of voters that voted for him in 2020,as he did last night.
I expect it to be far below for both Trump/Biden, especially with new voting laws now in place (SC have new voting laws too) that will disenfranchise minorities. https://scvotes.gov/resources/election-law-changes/ New voting laws do in fact "reduce" the number of participants in the voting process. It's a statistical fact. On top of that, there's still a big distrust by MAGA supporters in our voting machines. Thus, many have stated...why bother? It reminds me of something Trump echoed to his supporters on the night of voting when he said do not go to the polls in November 2020...there's fraud. More important, could the Republican primary results give us a peak into an increasing possibility for a low turn out in 2024 U.S. Presidential Elections (rhetorical...I already know the answer)? Expectations for turnout at the Iowa caucuses had been high heading into the year, following record-shattering attendance in the last competitive GOP contest. But just over 110,000 voters participated in the 2024 caucuses, falling well below the high expectations for turnout in 2024. Former President Donald Trump handily won the contest, trailed by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley. There could be a number of reasons for the low turnout: A lack of enthusiasm among Republicans plus record-breaking weather seemed to stand in the way, keeping some voters home amid the unprecedented caucus cold, while others braved the frigid temperatures. Another poor excuse (sarcasm...not a question). wrbtrader
How Biden did against 2 fringe candidates last night means nothing.What matters is how he will do against a cult leader who got 74 million votes in 2020. The fact that Biden 263,000 votes in SC last time but only got 126,000 this time suggest he will not do very well,and thats putting it nicely.
I'm the one that first mentioned the crappy candidates to you in the first primary...I asked a question about why the Democrats put up a bunch of names against Biden that nobody has heard about when so many Democrats say Biden is letting them down when in fact the Democrats can't get their shit together...similar to the dysfunctional Republicans. More importantly, it's the fact that Biden was so overconfident in the first primary that he didn't worry that his own Democrats refused to put his name on the ballot...the voters put his name on the ballot as a write-in...he still kicked his opponent's asses. I think I mentioned to you it was similar to what Trump did...he didn't show up for any debates and still kicked his competition asses until they eventually dropped out one by one. As for Biden, he doesn't need to "do well"...he just needs to win even if it's by a few votes. Therefore, the number of voters is meaningless to me considering it implies it was a low number turnout for everybody that participated in the primary but Biden had the most votes no matter how hard you try to dismiss his victory. As for Trump, I did notice his primary in Iowa was also a low number turnout even though he also kicked his competition's asses. You made no mention of that low vote turnout. It was similar to another thread where you posted a chart about the economic growth of past presidents... You did not show Biden's name on the chart in comparison while you dismissed the economic growth under Biden as if there was "no growth". You did something similar again to someone when someone posted a chart of the declines in Inflation after a record yearly high...again you dismissed it and pretended inflation was still at record highs when in fact it was not and currently still is not. Ok...I get it that you hate Biden but you do not seem to be OK with others that hate Trump. Yet, to twist the story like that to fit your narrative...you're afraid of something??? In contrast, I am factual about Trump catering to votes from White Supremacy, his attacks on our military that he never served, his mismanagement of the Pandemic, and then admitted in an interview he intentionally did not alert Americans to a health crisis that could have saved thousands of lives (in some places it would be called murder), his attacks on the spouses of his political opponents, his Muslim ban, his criminal cases, his civil cases involving defamation of another person he raped... The guy is a lunatic. You counter by posting more polls that Trump and the great outcome at the polls that still has not shown up along with now suggesting he's going to win in a record turnout of voters in his primaries & November while you barely or rarely promote West or Stein as if you have no faith in those two. Another way I view this...you say you dislike Trump, you say you hate Biden, you rarely talk about West/Stein, and you easily become triggered when others have a different political opinion from your views... Currently, you made some strange comments about the Muslim vote. I posted factual statistics for us to monitor in the 5 largest states of Muslim population (Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, and Michigan) considering other Muslim sub-groups seemed not to be bothered by what's going on in the Middle East. Yet, keep in mind, I will be looking for the Muslim numbers in South Carolina considering they have a nationwide movement against Biden. I'm truly curious about why that nationwide movement from Muslims was not able to defeat Biden in South Carolina especially when it should have been an easy victory for them to do considering how horrible Biden is for America...right ? Reminder about something I said before...only a dumbass does not exercise his/her right to vote and then bitches/dismisses the outcome. I will be voting against the greater evil (that's Trump) along with a high turnout among 8 million absentee voters of American expats living abroad. Yet, if I am wrong and its a low vote turnout...I'm OK with that too considering it will then be a low vote turnout for Trump too. wrbtrader
Trump got 31,000 votes in Iowa in 2020 Trump got 56,000 votes in Iowa in 2024 Biden got 263,000 votes in SC in 2020 Biden 126,000 votes in SC in 2024 Trump got nearly twice the votes in Iowa in 2024 than he did in 2020. Biden got half the votes in SC than he did in 2020.Trumps vote total in Iowa 2024 is also higher than it was in 2016.While Biden is losing massive support,Trump has gained support.
Half the voters who voted for Biden in 2020 not voting for him is no victory.As I said since you see losing half your voters as a good thing let us both look forward to it happening to Biden in November