More Obamacare layoffs

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Clubber Lang, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. yeah and cookie monster is 40 what's your point?
     
    #141     Nov 13, 2012
  2. Max E.

    Max E.

    Here is an excercise for you dipshit, go through a phone book which is 2 years old and start calling up pizza joints, and other restaraunts, first off, many of the phone numbers will say they no longer exist, scondly ask when they last changed management.

    Then take a drive down the bar/restauraunt strip for your area, and look at how many have changed names/management or how many vacant buildings you see in the last couple years.

    How many more people do you think are on the edge, its simple math buddy, and i know far more about this industry than you ever will, so dont throw out b.s. like this without backing it up.
     
    #142     Nov 13, 2012
  3. Max E.

    Max E.

    3 billion pizzas sold anually in the U.S. according to the numbers i found, a 10% increase (at the low level) in the cost of pizza due to Obamacare means that 300 million more pizzas have to be sold per year.

    Break down the number of households who order pizza with any kind of regularity and all of a sudden people need to order 10 more pizzas a year for these guys to hold their numbers, add that to the fact that food prices, and particularly dairy prices are going through the roof, plus healthcare costs are going through the roof, and all of a sudden pizza guys are fucked.

    People who say "yeah well its only 15 cents a pizza" are oblivious to the costs of running a business.
     
    #143     Nov 13, 2012
  4. Let's recap here.


    Yesterday the pizza cost $1 to make and sold for $1.50 (markup 50%) Add in the 15 cents and the new cost of pizza is $1.15 and now sells for $1.72 (hey, mark up is still 50% need to maintain my margin).

    The customer price increase = 22 cents. My customer is now paying a buck 72 for the same old pie, where is the customers value? There isn't any. Obama care just ripped off a pie eater.

    Now working on our same markup of 50% does not factor the extra accounting expense of processing the obama care paperwork. At the moment the owner now has an added expense he is not compensated for.

    For all we know paperwork required for obamacare might add 2 cents to the cost of the pie. Now our pie cost is $1.17 and add in our 50% markup the new price of the pie is $1.74.

    Now the customer is paying an additional 24 cents per pie with no value added.

    This is the pie example but suppose we used an item that required sales tax,, more revenue for the gov't. More expense to the customer. Suppose we had sales tax on the pie and add in a tip.

    This 15 cent increase in cost is adding up.
     
    #144     Nov 13, 2012
  5. #145     Nov 13, 2012
  6. Max E.

    Max E.

    Yeah, and like i said, 11-14 cents a pizza is the equivalent of 10% added to their food costs, what is it that you dont understand? In order to sell 10% more food you need 10% more employees,(who will also need healthcare) and you need 10% more space, and you need 10% more ovens, etc.. etc.... Do you not get it?
     
    #146     Nov 13, 2012
  7. Just add 15-20 cents per order as shattner stated or stop being greedy and eat the cost himself

    Delivery costs 1.75-2.50

    Obamacare cost 15-20 cents
     
    #147     Nov 13, 2012
  8. Yea so the 15 cents a pie reflects the pizzeria direct obama care expense. Unknown is how much will the cost of ingredients to make the pie go up. The supplier has the same obama care expense.
     
    #148     Nov 13, 2012
  9. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    +1

    And btw, being a pizza aficionado, the cost to make a 16" cheese and pepperoni is about $3 from a finer real Italian pie shop.

    dough $.44
    cheese $1.70....8oz of 50% Grande ($2.50 a lb.) and 50% of a quality blend Roma cheese
    sauce $.28...4oz of crushed tomato blend and 4oz of sauce
    pepp. $.40...quality Roma pepperoni product
    (From pizza making.com)

    Being papa johns isn't "top shelf" pizza, I'd say they're probably in it at around $2.
     
    #149     Nov 13, 2012
  10. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    I guess this is why people say that Obamacare is a tax.
     
    #150     Nov 13, 2012