More LIBERAL Hypocrisy

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Pop Sickle, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. I guess liberals who favor the nuclear option for passing the government take over of health care have no response to the video.
  2. Arnie


    Calling a liberal a hypocrite is like saying water is wet. :D
  3. Liberal Hipocracy? That is like the pot calling the kettle black. Republicans are supposed to be the "Fiscally Responsible Conservatives". However, Republican Ronald Reagan more than trippled the national debt durring his term. Republican President George W. Bush added 4.9 trillion dollars to the national debt. 2 wars that went unpaid for and also a Pharmaceutical bill that was also unpaid for, accounts for a massive debt that he left for the next administration. The only modern day President to turn a deficit into a budget surplus was Democratic President Bill Clinton. In fact, since President Carter's administration, EVERY republican president has grown the national debt more than ANY Democratic President has. So those conservative Republicans are only fiscally conservative in name. So where exacltly does the hipocracy lay?
  4. TT1


    Your comprehension of the FACTS are lame! For most of President Clinton's Presidency, the Republicans controlled Congress!!!

    If you had any understanding as to how our Government operates, you would know that......

    Most bills may be introduced in either House of Congress. However, the Constitution provides that "All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives." As a result, the Senate does not have the power to initiate bills imposing taxes. Furthermore, the House of Representatives holds that the Senate does not have the power to originate appropriation bills, or bills authorizing the expenditure of federal funds.

    It was the Republican controlled House led by Newt Gingrich and the Contract with America that helped put the U.S. on the right track to Fiscal responsibility.

    The Democrats have had control of Congress since 2007. The Democrats are responsible for the HUGE SPENDING and Out of Control Deficits!!!!

    This years Federal Budget Deficit is 3 Times larger than any Federal Budget Deficit under the Bush Presidency!!! Obama's Budget plans for the next 10 years will TRIPLE our National Debt!!!!

    Liberal Hypocrisy???? Hell...Yes!!!
  5. kut2k2


    You are easily one of the most stupid reichtards in this forum.

    Here are some facts to slam your empty skull against. The "nuclear option" is the GOP name for killing the filibuster (which would be a VERY GOOD thing). Killing the filibuster and using reconciliation are two entirely different things. So to call using reconciliation the "nuclear option" displays a level of either stupidity or dishonesty that should be repellent to every decent and thinking American ever born.

    The GOP members of Congress have proven themselves incapable of honesty. That you believe the horseshit that is breitbart proves you incapable of thinking.
  6. You can't address the FACTS dumb shit. Reconciliation is supposed to be used for federal budget appropriations, not for passing new huge government programs. Liberals now are circumventing the legislative process that includes the use of the filibuster. In 2005, they were complaining that Republicans might circumvent the process in approving judges. That is the HYPOCRISY, get it?
  7. I think the issue is somewhat more nuanced. The Constitution lays out a requirement that treaties be approved by a 2/3 vote of the Senate. Appointments, eg judges, only require the "advise and consent" of the Senate, implying that majority vote was contemplated. The filibuster is a Senate rule and hence subordination to the Constitution. The republican argument was that using the filibuster to block judges, ie requiring 60 votes instead of a simple majority, was inconsistent with the constitutional scheme.

    There is no such objection to using the filibuster to stall ordinary legislation. That is what it was designed to do, to prevent the tyranny of the majority. There is a vast difference between blocking legislation and blocking the president's constitutional authority to appoint judges.

    The Senate also adopted the so-called reconciliation exception to the filibuster for budget matters, recognizing that something crucial like the federal budget should not be held up by filibusters. The republicans used recociliation to pass the Bush tax cuts, whch is why they expired after ten years.

    Obama's government health care plan is clearly not the type of bill that reconciliation was designed for. It involves the budget only in the same way any other big government spending plan does. That is the reason republicans are objecting so strongly to use of reconciliation. It amounts to the majority ignoring the Senate's own rules to push through highly controversial legislation. Of course, if we have learned anything about Obama, it is that he has zero respect for the law when it gets in the way of something he wants to do.