More Evidence Great Depression II Is Here: 30mm Unemployed in U.S. (19% of workforce)

ByLoSellHi · Aug 13, 2009

Check out how INCREDIBLY BUBBLE-LICIOUS banking valuations are, based on government approved and encouraged fraudulent accounting measures (most banks are giant pieces of shit on valuation, they will implode next, despite all the gov't intervention at a huge expense to date - unbearable expense, long term? - and what's the government going to do this time around?):

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=173076

EMRGLOBAL · Aug 13, 2009

old news on the banks.

Bottom line, those in equities will suffer the most. Those in Commodities will take a beating but will most likely win over the long run.....Oil, Land, Gold, and pennies on the dollar deals in RE.

smart money ,.,,Long term play in Commodities... short term anything is doom and the sheepole are fall'n for it.

TGregg · Aug 13, 2009

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smart money ,.,,Long term play in Commodities... short term anything is doom and the sheepole are fall'n for it.
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Smart money is getting untaxable. Everybody knows some sort of wealth tax will be here before The One steps down.

ByLoSellHi · Aug 13, 2009

http://www.miamiherald.com/business/breaking-news/story/1183857.html

Foreclosures up 7% in 30 days, 32% YoY; "Lenders Overwhelmed."

Gee, and only after taxpayers gave trillions. How much more will they need?

MattF · Aug 13, 2009

quadrillions

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Coldspring · Aug 13, 2009

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quadrillions

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Says it all.

ByLoSellHi · Aug 13, 2009

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

ProfLogic · Aug 13, 2009

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Hah.. I had to sit through Ramen girl over the weekend to get sex.. cute flick
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Did he use KY?

acepowerdrive · Aug 13, 2009

seriously,

the economy just a had a near death experience similiar to the crash of 1929 bank failing etc.

if it wasn't for FDIC or spif and gov't FED and gov't sector making 40% of workforce, this was the second great depression events.

eerily similiar. just hope the same mistakes aren't being made.

this time the gov't DEBT is the ticking time bomb or black swan of the global economy with the unmanageable DEBT and etc. the debt is more serious than any stock market or housing market and even unemployment issues.

all the taxes collected doesn't even pay the interest in the national debt that in itself is alarming.

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If the stats Herbert cites are true, there is no way out.

I believe his stats to be more true than not.

A Scary Reality

By BOB HERBERT
Published: August 10, 2009

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/opinion/11herbert.html?_r=1&hp

Last week was a pretty good one for President Obama. Bill Clinton helped out big time when he returned from North Korea with the American journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee. Sonia Sotomayor was elevated to the Supreme Court. And Fridayâs unemployment report registered a tiny downward tick in the jobless rate.

But for American workers peering anxiously through their family portholes, the economic ship is still sinking. You can put whatever kind of gloss you want on last weekâs jobs numbers, but the truth is that while they may have been a bit better than most economists were expecting, they were still bad, bad, bad.

Some 247,000 jobs were lost in July, a number that under ordinary circumstances would send a shudder through the country. It was the smallest monthly loss of jobs since last summer. And for that reason, it was seen as a hopeful sign. The official monthly unemployment rate ticked down from 9.5 percent to 9.4 percent.

But behind the official numbers is a scary story that illustrates the single biggest challenge facing the United States today. The American economy does not seem able to provide enough jobs â and nowhere near enough good jobs â to maintain the standard of living that most Americans have come to expect.

The country has lost a crippling 6.7 million jobs since the Great Recession began in December 2007. No one is predicting a recovery in the foreseeable future powerful enough to replace the millions of jobs that have vanished in this historic downturn.

Analysts at the Economic Policy Institute noted that the economy has fewer jobs now than it had in 2000, âeven though the labor force has grown by around 12 million workers since then.â

Two issues that absolutely undermine any rosy assessment of last weekâs employment report are the swelling ranks of the long-term unemployed and the crushing levels of joblessness among young Americans. More than five million workers â about a third of the unemployed â have been jobless for more than six months. Thatâs the highest number recorded since accurate records have been kept.

For those concerned with the economic viability of the American family going forward, the plight of young workers, especially young men, is particularly frightening. The percentage of young American men who are actually working is the lowest it has been in the 61 years of record-keeping, according to the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston.

Only 65 of every 100 men aged 20 through 24 years old were working on any given day in the first six months of this year. In the age group 25 through 34 years old, traditionally a prime age range for getting married and starting a family, just 81 of 100 men were employed.

For male teenagers, the numbers were disastrous: only 28 of every 100 males were employed in the 16- through 19-year-old age group. For minority teenagers, forget about it. The numbers are beyond scary; theyâre catastrophic.

This should be the biggest story in the United States. When joblessness reaches these kinds of extremes, it doesnât just damage individual families; it corrodes entire communities, fosters a sense of hopelessness and leads to disorder.

The unemployment that has wrought such devastation in black communities for decades is now being experienced by a much wider swath of the population. Weâve been in deep denial about this. Way back in March 2007, when the official unemployment rate was a wildly deceptive 4.5 percent and the Bush crowd was crowing about the alleged strength of the economy, I wrote:

âPeople can howl all they want about how well the economy is doing. The simple truth is that millions of ordinary American workers are in an employment bind. Steady jobs with good benefits are going the way of Ozzie and Harriet. Young workers, especially, are hurting, which diminishes the prospects for the American family. And blacks, particularly black males, are in a deep danger zone.â

The official jobless rate is now more than twice as high â 9.4 percent â and even more wildly deceptive. It ticked down by 0.1 percent last month not because more people found jobs, but because 450,000 people withdrew from the labor market. They stopped looking, so they werenât counted as unemployed.

A truer picture of the employment crisis emerges when you combine the number of people who are officially counted as jobless with those who are working part time because they canât find full-time work and those in the so-called labor market reserve â people who are not actively looking for work (because they have become discouraged, for example) but would take a job if one became available.

The tally from those three categories is a mind-boggling 30 million Americans â 19 percent of the overall work force.

This is, by far, the nationâs biggest problem and should be its No. 1 priority.
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More Evidence Great Depression II Is Here: 30mm Unemployed in U.S. (19% of workforce)

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