Monthly Income Generated

Discussion in 'Options' started by nycderivtrader, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. I would venture to suggest it's because they don't know the risk involved beyond 2 x SD. If they ran a 3 (or more) SD adverse move together with a 30% IV shift I think they'd no longer be describing their 10% monthly returns as "safe".

    A 10% per month return is certainly achievable, but it's far from safe.
     
    #41     Jul 26, 2007
  2. Some very good posts here. Thanks

    I normally do credit spreads -both puts and calls.

    My target is 1% every week. When I have achieved that I stop fot that week, My available funds overnight must never fall less than 60% except in expiry week when I might allow it to go upto 50%.

    I trade only european style options which give me enough time for adustments. Mainly I trade FTSE1000 (Z) and ES end of month expiry which is european style. I only trade near month and this gives me two expiries to use my full capital

    I still want to improve by going to some other product which is not co-related. Any suggestion is most welcome and much appreciated.
     
    #42     Jul 26, 2007
  3. agreed. there is nothing safe about what i do or the others here. i spend every day trying to build long option positions around my shorts. after the current drop my short puts are 7.5% otm.

    risk of ruin is large. in my case, i am using a smaller amount of margin compared to those with bigger balls than i, long options above and below in the same month; but a 10% move would still be real bad......
     
    #43     Jul 26, 2007
  4. Nanook...The background music? Whats the name of the album?thanks...RR
     
    #44     Jul 26, 2007
  5. In this case you haven't been in the market long enough to say that 5-10% per month can be made safely and consistently. You probably would have jumped off a bridge if you were selling options on Sept 10, using your "safe" strategy.
     
    #45     Jul 26, 2007
  6. lindq

    lindq

    All those selling puts....how are you feeling today, folks? Was it worth those few premies you collected?
     
    #46     Jul 26, 2007
  7. I'll add that a 3 sigma VaR is a tad worse than a 10% loss.
     
    #47     Jul 26, 2007
  8. Nanook

    Nanook

    #48     Jul 26, 2007
  9. jj90

    jj90

    Long gamma > short gamma this week. Of course if one already was short gamma, better not puke those positions or scalp enough intraday to pay the drawdown....
     
    #49     Jul 26, 2007
  10. i'll give you a quick summary. sold long 780's aug(er2) closed 745 shorts. original premium on 745's were 5pts closed at 7.60. 780's were legged into @ 3 pts, sold @ 17.10. very small net loss overall because more short than long.
    been there before many times. maybe some day it will catch up , but i continue to hedge better imo monthly. to think, i was worried about my short calls (all closed today)....
     
    #50     Jul 26, 2007