Money Mangers Marketing

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by LongView, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. bulat

    bulat

    I just finished reading "Hedgehogged" and "Running Money", both written by hedge fund managers who talk about the travails of raising money for their funds.

    The impression I got from these books, is that they received most of their client introductions through their prime brokers. The prime brokers took them to fund raising conferences and also made direct introductions to big investors.

    Are there companies that provide this sort of service for a fixed fee, as opposed to future revenue sharing?
     
    #91     Apr 16, 2006
  2. 03-23-06 04:50 AM

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    Everyone wants managed accounts. At least every one who has contacted me.
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    but there may come a time / point when you don't have a choice / the admin's just too much / your prime broker's not playing ball because of this or that / or is too clearly attempting to back-engineer your strategies etc etc... that's where the fund comes in handy... just by way of update http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82397
     
    #92     Dec 20, 2006
  3. Any example to explain how that work?
     
    #93     Oct 28, 2009
  4. mokwit

    mokwit

    Seems they want something stable they can gear up against.
     
    #94     Oct 28, 2009
  5. ChrisM

    ChrisM

    I am not financial products marketing expert but I think this means distributing CTA program through IBs.

    Brokerage business has additional challenge to deal with - clients losing money trading their own accounts. Using good CTA program can provide stability and steady commission flow for FCM.
     
    #95     Oct 28, 2009
  6. Aaron

    Aaron

    Yes, Chris is right about the benefits to the broker. The IB recommends one or more CTA's. The investor picks a CTA and reads and signs the CTA's disclosure document. The investor gives the CTA limited power of attorney to trade his or her account. The broker gets commissions, the CTA gets management fees, and the investor (hopefully) gets trading profits.

    As a CTA I frequently (well, once a week approx -- just got one from MF Global yesterday) get calls from IB's looking for CTA's to market. Since Schindler Trading only executes through Interactive Brokers we have to pass on the IB's who want us to trade their clients' accounts. We thus lose out on this source of business.

    Interactive Brokers' low commissions, interest on cash balances, convenient advisor accounts, and capable API make me not want to deal with other brokers both for my sake and the sake of our investors. However, Interactive Brokers doesn't market or recommend CTAs, unfortunately.

    Good trading,
    Aaron Schindler
    Schindler Trading
     
    #96     Oct 28, 2009
  7. mokwit

    mokwit

    Please can you elaborate on this.
     
    #97     Oct 28, 2009
  8. Aaron

    Aaron

    Fyi, Mokwit, Formikatrading hasn't posted on ET for more than two years.
     
    #98     Oct 28, 2009
  9. mokwit

    mokwit

    Thanks for the headsup:D - wasn't looking at dates. Perhaps someone else can elaborate as to why Family Offices are not worth bothering with. I can understand third part multi family offices are too interested in making sure their backsides are covered, but what about Single Family offices (effectively Super HNWI?)
     
    #99     Oct 28, 2009
  10. Would you mind to explain why you feel that way? For examples? Thanks.
     
    #100     Oct 29, 2009