on more than one occasion I have turned a few thousand into six figures through trading you know what .. it does not mean that much to me other than the sense of accomplishment and the means to give to others in need from time to time there are more important issues in life that I have yet to deal with the only thing I regret is not having made good money when I was alot younger while both my parents were alive and before my sister became NUTS hmmm maybe her becoming nutso has made the market easier to deal with sometimes as it is a way for me to "block her out of mind "