MOC on NYSE did not execute

Discussion in 'Order Execution' started by Maverick2608, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. gkishot

    gkishot

    #31     Apr 24, 2015
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  2. Stupid regulations like this is why I do not trade equities. I find it hard to imagine how someone can not think of this as a wild west casino. An MOC order which fill probability depends on the last tick in an auction which outcome is already arithmetically determined before the auction even starts.

    A British punter wanted for causing the flash crash and cannot short sell a stock in the same simple way than buying a stock (subject to borrow availability). In what times are we living. US regulators really watch too much porn on the job.


     
    #32     Apr 24, 2015
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  3. d08

    d08

    Indeed, the Short Sale Restriction program is an utterly moronic one. I've yet to see it stop a firesale in a pump and dump scenario. I guess when bureaucrats who have no idea about the realities make the laws this happens.
     
    #33     Apr 24, 2015
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  4. It's another of those regulations that were essentially created for the top 1-2%. If markets were truly free and equitable then one should be able to just as easily sell than buy an asset. If regulators went after true market violators and not either after small fish or regulated everyone to death then this would be a place much more people would trust and as result conduct business at.

     
    #34     Apr 24, 2015
  5. luisHK

    luisHK

    Not that I support those restrictions, but how are short sale restrictions supposed to favour the top 1 or 2% ?
    Actually in some forums, it seems small traders keep on bitching about shortsellers, how short sales profit big players and should be banned.
     
    #35     Apr 24, 2015
  6. It puts business owners and share holders at an asymmetric advantage. If you look at share ownership of the top 1-2% vs 98-99% then maybe my comment becomes more apparent.

     
    #36     Apr 25, 2015
  7. Sergio77

    Sergio77

    Imbalance. This is FIFO order.
     
    #37     Apr 25, 2015
  8. zdreg

    zdreg

    don't tell others to do the research.

    again you made a snake oil salesman reply. you made the statement. for the umpteenth you have proven nothing. basically you enjoy wasting other people's time with dubious conclusions while not offering a shred of evidence.

    my guess is the top 1% of shareholders are long term holders and don't give a damn about meaningless to them intra-day fluctuations.
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2015
    #38     Apr 27, 2015
  9. The following is for you as you apparently have no clue about your own country's wealth distribution.

    May I cite: " The Top 1 Percent Of Americans Own Half Of The Country’s Stocks, Bonds, And Mutual Funds: "

    Source: The Institute for Policy Studies http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/03/334156/top-five-wealthiest-one-percent/

    And yes, it does matter because with short sell rules and protection against downside (no matter how shitty a company's fundamentals) a certain minority in the population benefits proportionally more than the rest. After all there is no buy limits before/at/after a company announces blockbuster earnings.

     
    #39     Apr 27, 2015
  10. zdreg

    zdreg

    long term investors couldn't care. only short term traders care.
     
    #40     Apr 27, 2015