MIT research scientist pleads guilty to insider trading

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by ajacobson, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. Gordon Gekko said it best,

    'You don't need inside information anymore to get rich...you just need to stay out of jail.'
    (loosely paraphrased) from Wall Street Money Never Sleeps, 2010 movie.

    If you're a smart or wise trader...you can make much more than that what he made.
    What a foolish man to take that risk with inside information. he and his wife were already basically rich.
     
    #11     Nov 1, 2017
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  2. carrer

    carrer

    Creating a new account a few days prior to a large option purchase will definitely raise a red flag. On the other hand, a trader that regularly trades with consistent sizes, upon receiving an insider information, he should trade with the size similar to his 'usual' sizes.

    How do we get around this? Maybe one should find a large trader friend and let him trade using your information and get commissions.
     
    #12     Nov 1, 2017
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  3. Bingo! It is well known in the financial industry that corporate lawyers tend to be the biggest "leakers" in insider trading.
     
    #13     Nov 1, 2017
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  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I once had a volume based strategy that signaled for me to buy OSIP (a pharma company) calls. I bought 1200 at 330pm. That evening "unexpected" drug news came out and the stock rallied 3 dollars. I made 300k. Two days after that I got a letter from the SEC asking why i did the trade.
     
    #14     Nov 1, 2017
  5. carrer

    carrer

    How did you respond to them? After you have responded, any further inquiries from them?
     
    #15     Nov 1, 2017
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  6. jl1575

    jl1575

    That is cool!
    Did you showed them the chart?
    I think that is called indirect insider information, the insider info led to the increased volume, and you acted on that, smart and legal. Hope you don't have family members, friends or relatives associated with OSIP though, otherwise they will scrutinize it extensively even you acted on it without any insider info.
     
    #16     Nov 1, 2017
  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I was working for a bank and a compliance lawyer called me. She said they get these inquiries all the time. I explained the strategy and showed her the model. She wrote a letter explaining and the case was closed.
     
    #17     Nov 1, 2017
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  8. zdreg

    zdreg

    be serious. when does legalities stop the government from pursuing the little guy.
     
    #18     Nov 1, 2017
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  9. sss12

    sss12

    @carrer LOL...Besides the moral issues here..for your sake I hope you never come across such info, you will surely end up in jail !
     
    #19     Nov 1, 2017
  10. pursuit

    pursuit

    What would happen if you told SEC to go fuck themselves? Trading strats are proprietary.
     
    #20     Nov 1, 2017