Mississippi, Kentucky, Georgia, Ohio, Alabama passing 6 week abortion ban bills

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, May 10, 2019.

  1. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    The current position of republic party, no abortion even for rape and insest, mother’s life only exception.

    That is why common sense people willing to meet in the middle.

    Both extremes are horrible.
     
    #61     Nov 1, 2019
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  2. The extremists seem to be determining party politics for all, especially on abortion. One will say abortions all the time, anytime for anyone. The other saying no abortions ever for any reason. They're all nuts and we don't have any "leaders" with the stones to get up and say, we're no longer giving the crazies the stage. In fact, they're pandering to the lunatics and ignoring the other 95% of their constituents.
     
    #62     Nov 1, 2019
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  3. Black_Cat

    Black_Cat

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    #63     Nov 1, 2019
  4. wildchild

    wildchild

    Not really accurate, but why should lying democrats start telling the truth now?
     
    #64     Nov 1, 2019
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Ohio going full retard:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...eme-abortion-bill-reimplant-ectopic-pregnancy

    Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face 'abortion murder' charges
    Ohio introduces one of the most extreme bills to date for a procedure that does not exist in medical science

    A bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.

    This is the second time practising obstetricians and gynecologists have tried to tell the Ohio legislators that the idea is currently medically impossible.

    The move comes amid a wave of increasingly severe anti-abortion bills introduced across much of the country as conservative Republican politicians seek to ban abortion and force a legal showdown on abortion with the supreme court.

    Ohio’s move on ectopic pregnancies – where an embryo implants on the mother’s fallopian tube rather than her uterus rendering the pregnancy unviable – is one of the most extreme bills to date.

    “I don’t believe I’m typing this again but, that’s impossible,” wrote Ohio obstetrician and gynecologist Dr David Hackney on Twitter. “We’ll all be going to jail,” he said.


    An ectopic pregnancy is a life-threatening condition, which can kill a woman if the embryonic tissue grows unchecked.

    In addition to ordering doctors to do the impossible or face criminal charges, House Bill 413 bans abortion outright and defines a fertilized egg as an “unborn child”.

    It also appears to punish doctors, women and children as young as 13 with “abortion murder” if they “perform or have an abortion”. This crime is punishable by life in prison. Another new crime, “aggravated abortion murder”, is punishable by death, according to the bill.

    The bill is sponsored by representatives Candice Keller and Ron Hood, and co-sponsored by 19 members of Ohio’s 99-member House.

    Mike Gonidakis, the president of the anti-abortion group Ohio Right to Life, declined to comment on the bill, and said he was still reading the legislation because, it’s “approximately 700 pages long”. He said his office is “taking off the rest of the week for Thanksgiving”.

    The Guardian also contacted the Susan B Anthony List, a national anti-abortion organization. The organization did not reply to a request for comment.

    Keller, Hood and eight of the bill’s 19 co-sponsors did not reply to requests for comment. The Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association also did not reply to a request for comment.

    Ohio passed a six-week abortion ban last summer. The “heartbeat bill”, as supporters called it, banned abortion before most women know they are pregnant. Reproductive rights groups immediately sued, and the bill never went into effect. Abortion is legal in all 50 US states.

    In May, researcher Dr Daniel Grossman argued reimplanting a fertilized egg or embryo is “pure science fiction” in a Twitter thread that went viral in May, when the bill was first introduced.

    “There is no procedure to reimplant an ectopic pregnancy,” said Dr Chris Zahn, vice-president of practice activities at the American College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. “It is not possible to move an ectopic pregnancy from a fallopian tube, or anywhere else it might have implanted, to the uterus,” he said.

    “Reimplantation is not physiologically possible. Women with ectopic pregnancies are at risk for catastrophic hemorrhage and death in the setting of an ectopic pregnancy, and treating the ectopic pregnancy can certainly save a mom’s life,” said Zahn.
     
    #65     Nov 30, 2019
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #66     Dec 9, 2019
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #67     Jan 25, 2020
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #68     Mar 5, 2020
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Y'allQueda gonna Queda

    https://fortune.com/2021/07/09/texas-abortion-law-bounty-hunting/
    New Texas law opens up abortion bounty hunting

    An antiabortion law in Texas will soon allow any U.S. citizen to sue Texas-based abortion clinics, doctors, and anyone who aids in an abortion. If successful, the petitioner, who does not have to reside in Texas, will receive an $10,000 award and the cost for attorney’s fees. Pro-choice advocates worry that this cash prize may create a new cottage industry of aggressive antiabortion bounty hunters.

    The provision, which passed the Texas state legislature this spring, is part of a larger antiabortion bill which will ban all abortions after a doctor detects a fetal heartbeat, usually around the six-week mark.

    Many don’t know they are pregnant before six weeks. For most people, a six-week ban would stop access to abortion just two weeks after a missed period.

    The law is set to take effect on Sept. 1, and lawyers for abortion clinics are unsure of how to rebuke it because the government isn’t the enforcing body. In the past, six-week bans in other states have all been eventually found unconstitutional as they’ve risen through the legal system.

    This “legal hack” could be a way to get around that.

    Typically, governmental agencies shut down or challenge abortion clinics accused of breaking the law, and the clinics then have a way to challenge the constitutionality of the state law through the courts. By deputizing Americans to sue on their own, clinics and doctors can no longer employ that method.

    An organization like Planned Parenthood would normally go to court and sue Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton before the bill is enacted, but because he is not the one enforcing the law, it has to instead wait to be sued itself.

    Opening up the ability to sue to all Americans could also inundate clinics with lawsuits, overwhelming their limited legal and monetary resources. Even if they ultimately win cases, time and money will be depleted.


    “Every citizen is now a private attorney general,” said Josh Blackman, a constitutional law professor at South Texas College of Law Houston.“You can have random people who are against abortion start suing tomorrow.”

    Over 370 Texas attorneys, including county attorneys, current and former elected officials, former judges, and law professors wrote a letter to the state legislature earlier this spring expressing their concerns over the bill.

    “In an attempt to avoid a constitutional challenge that the state will likely lose, these bills are drafted to remove any state actor from enforcing them, but allow ‘any person’ to use Texas state courts to enforce compliance with 28 existing regulations and the new unconstitutional ban,” the letter read.

    The bill, said critics, is an “affront” to our system of government. “By allowing anyone in the country to sue, we would be throwing open our courthouse doors to harassing and frivolous lawsuits against doctors—putting more strain on our already overburdened court system,” said Dallas County judge Clay Jenkins in a statement.

    Other Texas legal officials expressed concern that the bill was broad enough to allow sexual predators to profit off their assaults. “The bill is so extreme that it could even allow a rapist to sue a doctor for providing care to a sexual assault survivor and for the rapist to recover financial damages,” wrote Travis County attorney Delia Garza.

    While the bill does not allow convicted felons to sue, abortion rights advocates say that the bill’s wording is vague and that the majority of rapes and assaults go unreported.

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott stood behind the provision, citing his religious beliefs.

    “Our creator endowed us with the right to life, and yet millions of children lose their right to life every year because of abortion,” Abbott said in a bill signing ceremony in May. The legislature “worked together on a bipartisan basis to pass a bill that I’m about to sign that ensures that the life of every unborn child who has a heartbeat will be saved from the ravages of abortion.”
     
    #69     Jul 14, 2021
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #70     Jul 26, 2021