Minimizing noise in Trend identification?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by ninZa.co, Nov 8, 2023.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Timing on the $VIX index. H to H 72 bars, H to L 72 bars, L to L 71 bars:-

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    #11     Nov 8, 2023
  2. faust

    faust

    relax, don't get yer skivvies in a twist. Stylized example - not aiming to top/bottom tick precisely - but, with the right optics (non-time based) & right technique (optimal bet & position sizing, scaling/pyramiding/hedging) directional trading is low-stress shooting fish in a barrel @ this point.

    ELIMINATE TIME
    ELIMINATE NOISE
     
    #12     Nov 8, 2023
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  3. faust

    faust

    and?
     
    #13     Nov 8, 2023
  4. schizo

    schizo

    It means time plays a crucial role in trading.
     
    #14     Nov 8, 2023
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  5. schizo

    schizo

    Well, nothing to lose sleep over. Anyway, using TICK or RANGE chart eliminates NOISE in your view?
     
    #15     Nov 8, 2023
  6. maxinger

    maxinger

    I use Intermarket correlation and also look out for less noisy futures to trade.

    If the whole market is noisy, I better sit on my hands.
    No amount of indicators will save you.
    A thousand indicators will not save you.
     
    #16     Nov 8, 2023
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  7. steve42

    steve42

    That almost sounded like some ancient zen text or something.

    See the following paper for a application of the concept of noise robust estimation to the problem of decoupling short and long-term volatility something relevant to the problem at hand completely unlike the b******* crap the OP was selling

    Decoupling the short- and long-term behavior of stochastic volatility - arXiv https://arxiv.org/pdf/1610.00332
     
    #17     Nov 8, 2023
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  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you for the link.

    Very interesting paper. It will take me time to digest it and see how it is possible to filter out short term noise without also filtering out short term information. After all we want short term information.
     
    #18     Nov 9, 2023
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    #19     Nov 9, 2023
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  10. Darc

    Darc

    Al Brooks says there's no such thing as noise. The Computers are all entering for a reason.


    (Don't shoot the Messenger lol)
     
    #20     Nov 9, 2023