Mr Hershey claims he is hated (so must be something in it then,the newcomer thinks.I'd better take a look).Previously he has used many multiple aliases when he has specifically stated he would leave this 'trading' board.(Causing distress and anger in those already manipulated for fear of being deprived of him).He may or may not have suffered from multiple illnesses.All of which added to the stress of those already manipulated via fear he would not be able to impart his 'knowledge'. You're really not hated Mr Hershey.You just like to maintain the 'feeling of discernment' in the minds of those you already control by claiming so.Happily enough there are other places where you don't venture.Ciao
And this brings us to the delicate subject of fear. Given that we are not being chased by wild animals, locked up with snakes or persecuted for witchcraft, then exactly what is there to be afraid of when trading. Granted, we might fear the outcome of a trade, but we can rationalise this away by calling it "the fear of the unknown" In a sense this label is correct but it is being applied to the wrong process. It is not the outcome of the next trade that instills fear within us, but more than likely it is a part of our magnificent brain that is alerting us to the sad fact that we simply do not know what we are doing. If we can accept this premise then we can move on and outgrow it through the intellectual process of leaning. If we ignore it or worse still, if we deliberately relabel it and assign it to market conditions conspiring against us, then we are in big big trouble. Actually we are in deep doo-doo since nothing we do is done in isolation and this behavioural pattern spills over into the rest of our lives. Or to put it in it's correct context, the rest of our lives have spilled over into our trading. This then makes us extremely vulnerable to manipulation and the obvious open port is our mind. The temptation to attach ourselves to a trading guru proves overwhelming as he/she provides us with the comfort of other lost souls plus a target for our warped logic as our account balance drains away. Our frustration is kept in check by the guru's practiced manipulation and we find ourselves supporting our losing guru in an effect to correct our hopeless behaviour. How pathetically sad is this situation. In the real world this vulnerability to manipulation is sugar coated and never pushed to it's absolute, since we are all meant to dangle at the end of a string forever ... sadly, the credit crisis has ruined the game for now. The trading world however is brutally honest and many a trader returns to the safety of their manipulative real world covered in bruises and excuses. This in turn increases the level of their vulnerability. For those traders who are in between gurus and are as helpless as a ship without a rudder, there is always ET.... a sanctuary within the trading wilderness where naked frustration can be poured upon the innocent and the equally frustrated ... no distinction is made. regards f9
Myth: People who have left ET cults should just get over it. Unfortunately, it is not so simple. Former trading cultists had their entire trading method, minds, and personalities deeply invested in a deceptive cult leader. Many traders will suffer from very real psychological, and even situational difficulties that will take a long time and a lot of study to overcome. Some of these problems can include anxiety, depression, guilt, anger, indecisiveness, difficulty integrating back into regular ET threads, confusion and disorientation and difficultly adapting to another trading method. This is equally true of the cult leader who can have deeper problems than their previous followers.
Fearless9 â Your insights into mind control are awesome. These sentences sum it all up perfectly. âThe temptation to attach ourselves to a trading guru proves overwhelming as he/she provides us with the comfort of other lost souls plus a target for our warped logic as our account balance drains away.â âIn the real world this vulnerability to manipulation is sugar coated and never pushed to it's absolute, since we are all meant to dangle at the end of a string forever..â âFor those traders who are in between gurus and are as helpless as a ship without a rudder, there is always ET.... a sanctuary within the trading wilderness where naked frustration can be poured upon the innocent and the equally frustrated ... no distinction is made.â Myth: Mind Controlling a trader involves physical restraint, hypnosis, flashing images, and a swinging lamp. These images come from movie-makers, novelists, and TV writers who need dramatic imagery and gripping stories to keep us entertained. Real-life mind control is not usually so exciting. Early studies of mind control were done on Communist China and POWs. These manipulators had the advantage of physical force to detain, torture, starve, and kill their victims. They also had total and complete control of information. They had the power to debilitate, instill total dependence, and cause real dread in the hearts of their captives. In ET threads we have relative freedom, so those who wish to control us must first persuade us and earn our trust. The Three D's are now: Deception, Dependency, and Dread. Since ET threads have no swinging lamp and torture devices that likely to tip us off, ET cults need to be a bit more stealthy in their mind control methods. The goal is to instill complete trust in the trading group and cult leadership. After that, we're likely to believe a lot of things and change our behaviors to match what we observe in the trading group and what we see in writing. One item that surprises most traders is ET has social pressure and even more important that we all may succumb to social pressures of the ET thread. If this happens our emotions can be manipulated, and our critical reasoning abilities can be altered or completely stripped away. Once we are socialized then we learn cult trading jargon (a loaded trading language) and trading phrases that stop our thoughts from going the wrong direction (away from the trading group). While we are learning this new trading jargon we ask questions. This is where we are shamed for not having read and memorized the trading mantras being presented. This social process creates the dependency. We can be deflated by ET written shame, and simultaneously inflated by the arrogance and elitism of our trading cult. In this process we make written public commitments to reinforce ourselves and become even more dependent. Phobias are induced. We come to believe that our trading lives, our trading identities, our trading principles, even possibly our very souls are in danger if we do not obey the trading group and cult leader, if we do not continue to believe the thought of being ejected from the ET thread paralyzes us. By this time, we are trapped. No interrogation rooms or torture chambers are necessary. There are also a few myths about altered states of consciousness. It is very natural and common for the human brain to change states of consciousness. It does not require drugs, meditation or hypnosis. We are in an altered state when we are falling asleep and when we dream. We are prone to changing states when we read, learn, concentrate, watch TV, listen to music, drive, and create. Our mind is capable of tuning out unimportant or repetitive information so we can focus on more relevant cognitive tasks. Sometimes the conscious side of the brain wants to shut down for a little while and we "space off". We can become so involved in a story or concentrating on an idea that we lose all awareness of the outside world. Music and creative functions can shift us into the right-brain and subconscious, where we are more emotional, visual and sensing, and therefore less rational. We're quite comfortable with most altered states because we experience them every day. It doesn't take much for a manipulator to subtly switch a person to a more emotional state, or cause someone to become absorbed in a story, or even make someone space off and trance out. While in these states, we're not at the total mercy of a would-be mind controller, but we are more easily influenced, especially if the manipulator is someone we trust.
That is where the problem lies for most traders .... FREEDOM Often dreamed of and never experienced. And so they set off chasing a dream that they cannot define, the plan being that the never ending in-flow of profits will take care of everything that is intolerable in their lives. Some plan! Ironically, the first step that traders take, is to swamp themselves in so much detail that the very freedom their mind requires to succeed is taken away. It is a funny old life really.... old habits die hard. regards f9
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F9 â You made an excellent point about the freedom we have as traders. Given all the freedom of choice we have as a new trader puts a large weight on our backs. We become very conscious that by trading we are tackling and area that many have failed in. In this process we do not allow ourselves to be prepared for the possibility that we may fail not just once but many times before we will succeed. So when failure inevitability does come we are left unstable and seek expert knowledge through ET threads, authors or software products. Many ET cults target traders who are at an unstable point in their trading lives. We have all had difficult periods, such as transitioning to new job, but trading maximizes our instability because we have no one to blame but ourselves when we fail in trading. When this happens are normal defenses are down and we are susceptible to deception and the persuasive techniques of mind control from ET cults. Regards RabbitOne