Mind Control 101 – Trading cults in ET

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Rabbitone, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. You have some good thoughts. But it is much more than just greed. These traders are hungering for acceptance in the "trading community."
     
    #241     Apr 29, 2009
  2. Thank you for your insightful comments.
     
    #242     Apr 29, 2009
  3. Eight

    Eight

    So I guess you are saying that anybody with the cult leadership skills and mentality would never share with people just to bask in the glory of their appreciation?

    You are more than just a little closed in your opinion there and limited in your ability to imagine a scenario... I posit that it is entirely possible that somebody could indeed form a cult and share all the info they knew about trading... there are a lot of different mentalities out there, read up on personality disorders on Wikipedia, they are well understood nowadays and they are well defined in those articles... it is far from being outside the realm of reason to think that a cult leader could really help his followers, what better cult to lead than a really rich one, who wants a bunch of poor losers hanging around.. well there was Jim Jones but he was outside the realm of an internet cult leader, he had physical access to people and literally was extorting them, he ruled by fear. It's pretty hard to rule by fear via the internet...
     
    #243     Apr 29, 2009
  4. "The greatest vulnerability amongst Traders (if ET is anything to go by) is greed ... pure naked greed ... the overwhelming desire to grab something before a full understanding of the "what, where and how" is achieved."

    The second half of this sentence intentionally qualifies the first.

    When someone understands the "what, where and how" of trading then the perception of greed/hunger disappears and the hole left behind is replaced by the thoughts and subsequent actions that generate consistent profits.

    Until this thought process occurs the trader continues to bluff him/herself and dazzle others with stupidity and childish statements.

    It is the very reason for failure in this game. Simply because at the retail level there is no possibility of employing the level of manipulation being played out in the outside world with so much apparent success.

    regards
    f9
    I imagine the greatest hurdle most traders must overcome is to learn to think for themselves.
     
    #244     Apr 29, 2009
  5. You probably want to rethink this statement.

    regards
    f9
     
    #245     Apr 29, 2009
  6. That's an incredibly insightful post f9.

    We have all seen these actions taken time and again by any number of different "resident gurus" (and their associates), who when put to the test of proving the profitability of their system (via live calls, blotters or trading competitions) choose to resort to the very actions that you mention in the second part of your post, no doubt for the very same reasons mentioned.

    In short, I am very glad that I didn't come to ET expecting to find anything, for if I had of, that expectation would have been sorely dissappointed.
     
    #246     Apr 29, 2009
  7. I think ET is a very difficult training ground for a new trader.
    By the time I discovered ET, I had already formed the conclusion that I needed to follow price and only use enhancements where I wanted to highlight a particular pattern.

    If I had to start all over again, that is where I would begin.

    regards
    f9
     
    #247     Apr 29, 2009
  8. T2GR8T

    T2GR8T

    Jack you are a failed insurance agent turned failed trader.. when will your fragile ego accept reality?
     
    #248     Apr 29, 2009
  9. Thanks, one of the best posts I have ever read on this forum.
     
    #249     Apr 29, 2009
  10. Eight -

    “People who brain wash others are not about to turn over their edge to you so you can make money.” I still stand by that statement. But, let us examine it more in-depth.

    The statement doesn’t say that the majority of ET traders do not contribute trading ideas. Some traders do share just to bask in the glory of their fellow trader’s appreciation. I get PM’s all the time as do many traders and have answered many questions in-depth about trading.

    You stated “… You are more than just a little closed in your opinion there and limited in your ability to imagine a scenario...” Please read again what I wrote “…People who brain wash others…” It doesn’t say that everyone on ET who opens a thread on ET is a brain washer. It doesn’t imply a ET cult cannot exist that has legitimate trading objectives. The whole point of this thread is some are not straight. Don’t believe me. Look at the 1000’s of cult replies on ET and you will see who they are.

    You stated” … It's pretty hard to rule by fear via the internet...” That is simply not true. Tell that to the 159 parents this year who have found their children dead from hanging or slashed wrists from internet cults….
     
    #250     Apr 29, 2009