Milo Launches First U.S. Crypto Mortgage

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by johnarb, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. ph1l

    ph1l

    In the U.S., I think it is a crypto sale because the IRS treats crypto as property.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2021/08/02/three-tax-free-crypto-transfers/?sh=40a1bcdfb3f7
    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-14-21.pdf
    That doesn't mean the idea won't work, but that ruling makes it a little more complicated for both sides.
     
    #11     Jan 18, 2022
    johnarb likes this.
  2. johnarb

    johnarb

    Bitcoin is property. You're using it as collateral to get a loan. Think of a pawnshop

    BlockFi loan

    1. You send your btc property to BlockFi as collateral
    2. You sign the loan docs promissory note
    3. Scratch loan company wires the money to your bank account nbd
    4. You pay Scratch a monthly payment from your bank account $
    5. You can renew the loan after a year or you can pay it off anytime
    6. If you pay off the loan, BlockFi will move the btc/cryptos to their BIA BlockFi Interest Account
    7. You start earning interest until you decide to withdraw your digital asset property back to your local wallet

    At no time did you sell your cryptos or you bought stock in exchange for cryptos

    I'm not a tax expert so you can consult your tax accountant, but just make sure you do not change the temrs I listed above
     
    #12     Jan 18, 2022
    ph1l likes this.
  3. ph1l

    ph1l

    That does make sense to me, but maybe not to the IRS.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/shehanchandrasekera/2020/07/21/are-cryptocurrency-loans-taxable
     
    #13     Jan 18, 2022
    johnarb likes this.
  4. johnarb

    johnarb

    I get the argument and it's a good one, but the whole industry exists and IRS would have shut them down or released a statement if it wanted to

    BlockFi, Celsius Network and even Fidelity are in this business in the US and it's big business

    That article is from Forbes and is an opinion piece


    Here's a thought exercise, if I send 1 bitcoin to Coinbase and held it there for 1 month and withdraw 1 btc back to my wallet, that article would claim I did not get my original property back, which is technically correct


    anyway, I already paid my loan last year and already got my bitcoins back, I will be paying a lot of taxes because I sold cryptos to fiat last year

    one thing that is interesting is that the loan is not from BlockFi but from a finance company

    I would make a guess that Milo will not be the mortgage lender but some bank or another financial entity
     
    #14     Jan 18, 2022
  5. maxinger

    maxinger

    people are getting creative.

    soon there will be millions of crypto derivatives.
     
    #15     Jan 18, 2022
  6. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    That is you. If a completely unrelated industry is using a blockchain as a mascot that is a clear sign of over saturation....
     
    #16     Jan 19, 2022
  7. johnarb

    johnarb