Milking late-night slow movement (ZB)

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by pleckerchris, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. Yes, but then you are assuming that his average profit per trade will be the same in the long run.

    In any case and in general, if the commissions/spread/slippage represent 5% of your gross profit, you need to make at least 5% just to break even, on each trade.

    And like I said before, the overwhelming majority of hedge funds cannot even make 2% a month on average.
     
    #11     Apr 26, 2014
  2. on what capital ?
    2% represents how much in $ for the average hedge fund?
    So that we know if it is worth dusting off a CV.
     
    #12     Apr 26, 2014
  3. Hi SmallStops,

    If you deposit let's say a hundred grand in your trading account on January 1 and on January 31st you now have $105.000 you just made 5%.

    And again, for the last time, make just 2% a month consistently and Warren Buffet will be looking for you :)
     
    #13     Apr 26, 2014
  4. :eek:

    I think I'll continue working on my psychology/spirituality as it related to trading. :D
     
    #14     Apr 26, 2014
  5. I don't really think it's about % earned more then money made. Making 2% a month on $100K isn't that hard. That's only $2,000. The big traders/investors manage $10s of millions. So 2% would be a huge deal. But what do I know.
     
    #15     Apr 26, 2014
  6. 10 million : 2% ==> 200 000$ / month.
    Or 100 000pounds/month roughly.
    So it is about being able to trade 1 000pounds/move ( pip/tick...)
     
    #16     Apr 26, 2014
  7. Really?

    Then call Soros or Buffet or Bill Gates, they will beg you to manage their billions right away! :cool:

    By the way, 2% a month equals more than 27% return on investment at the end of the year, compounded.

    In other words, 3 times the average yearly return of the S&P 500!!

    So you guys are either drunk (and I can understand that, it's the weekend after all...) or you are just fooling around :p
     
    #17     Apr 26, 2014
  8. Now I am starting to understand why a retail trader who was doing 3 000 pounds a pip on the dax tried to keep quiet.
    Now we know what the numbers are, it makes sense.
     
    #18     Apr 26, 2014
  9. Managing 2% monthly return on $100K vs $10M is a totally different ball game, both psychologically and in risk.
     
    #19     Apr 26, 2014
  10. Take Barclay Hedge for example. Looking at their January monthly, top CTAs managing <$10M earned 8.93-38.76% while CTAs managing >$10M earned 6.74-14.33%.
     
    #20     Apr 26, 2014