Military on ET, SOUND OFF

Discussion in 'Politics' started by oddiduro, Apr 17, 2008.

  1. Truth is, we probably will kick your door in, the public will insist, and that is who we serve. If you resist, a concussion grenade to stun you, and two shots to the torso, one to the head.

    The masses do not wish to be disturbed. They rolled over the day they stopped voting.

    As long as the NWO provides the masses with their comforts they need not be concerned.

    The proles are not potically astute enough to have a concept of a North American Union. They need four things. Theyneed to feed, fight, fuck, and finance the other three. Outside of that, the proles are not concerned with what you have to say.

    Again, let's be frank.
     
    #101     Apr 21, 2008
  2. achilles28

    achilles28

    Sounds like paradise.

    Lemmie know when your homework is done.
     
    #102     Apr 22, 2008
  3. achilles28

    achilles28

    So you just blindly follow orders, eh??

    Since when did that become noble or heroic?

    Its a moral imperative to do the right thing. Or else we become one of them.

    Besides, history shows we only need a small dedicated group and the sheep will follow. Maybe 5%.
     
    #103     Apr 22, 2008
  4. achilles28

    achilles28

    Its okay. You're forgiven.
     
    #104     Apr 22, 2008
  5. how dare you yanks gang up on my fellow Canadian achilles28

    achilles28 stand behind me, we'll show them yanks to treat us with respect

    OR we'll stop sending all that OIL we send to you ungratefull people with vestigial organs

    you know funny thing is

    USA drove the price of oil up, and now Alberta is making sick money, and I do mean SICK money selling it to Americans

    yet the story doesn't quite end there

    oh no it doesn't

    Its the American public that pay and US oil distribution companies that make money

    so Alberta wins, US big oil wins

    US Government loses (just ask the FED about loans)

    and US public loses

    but people deserve it

    people deserve to be forced to eat dirt

    people deserve everything

    nature has a way of fucking the stupid ones
     
    #105     Apr 22, 2008
  6. achilles28

    achilles28


    When the Country becomes a Police State, is that still "America"?

    When the Country is merged with Canada and Mexico - with ZERO border separation - is that still "America"?

    Cause thats already happening, brother.

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    #106     Apr 22, 2008
  7. achilles28

    achilles28


    True North Strong and Not-So Free. Amen.
     
    #107     Apr 22, 2008
  8. I do think you are not so afraid for us, you are afraid for YOU.

    The headquarters of the NAU will not be in Montreal, nor in Mexico City, in will be Washington, DC. I think I understand your protests, now.
     
    #108     Apr 22, 2008
  9. 2020 for me at MCRD.


    Don
     
    #109     Apr 22, 2008
  10. (I'm may be going out on a limb here, and as most of you know I pretty much stay away from the more controversial threads, for several reasons). I wanted to sort of respond to the several “arguments” on this thread with a short story.

    When I joined in 1969 I was scared....scared of the Draft, scared of going to Vietnam, 19 years old, in college,.....I had dropped a stupid PoliSci class and lost my deferment. They had a lottery that year, and were drafting something like 300 of 365 by birthday...I think I was like number 20 to go something like that. I had some friends who had joined the Marines, in various capacities, and found that I could go in for 6-12 months active, and serve a total of 6 years in active Reserve.

    I was a fish out of water when I hit boot camp, as I'm sure most were (looking back). There are 4 groups in a Series, 3 of which were being trained to ship off directly to Viet Nam, I was in the 4th (as mentioned above #2020). Being a "college boy" I was given the assignment of helping the others (mostly draftees) study for and pass the required written exams. My MOS was "01" and "02" (basically office and "intelligence" - map making etc.)... well, when I finished basic training and advanced training at Camp Pendleton, I was sent to 29 Palms base in the California desert....and handed a damn Machine Gun (definitely not my MOS, LOL).

    Anyway, to a point of the story here....mid way through our encampment period, we were given a display of Marine Corp pilots doing Strafing runs at low altitude, showing off their skills, come close to the deck (ground)....And all of a sudden, a plane crashed into the desert, ball of fire hundreds of feet high and long, and I went running in that direction (because my close friend was camped within yards of the crash)....I passed right by a burning corpse with a parachute still attached...killed instantly....giving his life for a Training Mission! OK, this obviously shook me up quite a bit...and I was expecting a big investigation and newspaper articles about this horrific event......2 small paragraphs on something like page 10 of a local paper (smaller in San Diego paper)..... "What am I missing here?" I wondered.

    Well, we lost trainees every year of 6 years...for some really foolish reasons (starting up 30 diesel landing craft in the hull of a ship without opening the hold doors, live vs. dummy ammunition being distributed, faulty grenades, a whole bunch of people lost their live for Training.

    During the Korean War, we lost about 70% of the 4th Marine Division (Reserves) because of lack of ongoing training (no meetings, no Summer training, etc), and being sent to a mission they were unprepared for…..so they started doing much more rigorous and active training….this better prepared the reserves for being called back to active duty… I was able to rationalize the “good of the many is more valuable the good of the few” (distorted Mr. Spock Star Trek quote)… but seeing the kids, yes kids, die right in front of you was pretty traumatic…nothing like combat, obviously, but dying in training was tough to see.

    I disobeyed “orders” and left the hold of that ship, coughing and gagging from the noxious exhaust fumes…all the while hearing the sergeants ordering everyone to stay put, and several of those who “stayed put” died that day. I disobeyed orders to load live ammo in my M-16 and get on a truck from Santa Monica to UCLA (not long after the Kent State shootings, again “conflicted” between following orders and questioning, what I thought was “questionable” authority.

    I’ve read most of the posts on this thread, and I see a great number of differing opinions about our Military, our Government, and our Administration…and I’m trying, in my own pathetic way, to say that many of you are “right” in your loyalty to the military and the government…and many of you are “right” in your thoughts about questioning authority and some decisions made by others, that affect the lives of our young men and women. I certainly don’t have the answers, but I feel as patriotic as the next guy, and yet I question a lot of decisions made by those in power….but I never question our “kids” in uniform, whether volunteers or draftees, because in many ways, they had few other choices.

    (sorry for the long diatribe)…..

    Hug your kids….respect your families…


    Don
     
    #110     Apr 22, 2008