Mikhail Gorbachev, last Soviet leader, dies at age 91

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by The_Krakenite, Aug 30, 2022.

  1. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Well he's the one who brought about changes. Changes are never popular with people and the person who brought about the changes is never popular either, especially when you are talking about such a drastic change from communism to western-style democracy that I am not sure if it's compatible with the Russian culture. And the first few years when Russia was reforming itself to embrace western-style democracy were hard, really hard on the Russian people especially so I can understand the negative sentiment that Russian people would have toward Gorbachev.
     
    #11     Aug 31, 2022
  2. He is a great man. Wish China one day has a leader like him to end communist party dictatorship, but I doubt it will never happen in the next generation.
     
    #12     Aug 31, 2022
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  3. Peter8519

    Peter8519

    It was the coup attempt that brought down the communist. They were already or going to be bankrupt. It was Boris who stopped the coup attempt.
     
    #13     Aug 31, 2022
  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    Russia has never known democracy in its history and isn't a part of Russian culture. This doesn't mean Russians can't evolve, but it's going to take a lot of work on their part. In the meantime, the world moves on and the satellite nations break away from the union whenever they find the opportunity.
     
    #14     Aug 31, 2022
  5. terr

    terr

    Was there in 2019 for my 40th high school reunion. Before Covid.
     
    #15     Aug 31, 2022
  6. terr

    terr

    It's going to be interesting to see how exactly his funeral will be conducted in Russia, and what (and whether) foreign dignitaries will be present. Poses a serious challenge to the current Russian regime.
     
    #16     Aug 31, 2022
  7. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    sad to read that. what's the problem? are russians not interested in real democracy, etc.?
     
    #17     Aug 31, 2022
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  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    He kept the breaking up of the USSR from turning into a Civil War.

    How ironic if OrangeMan causes us to have a second one, and in turn breaking us up. Never say never.
     
    #18     Aug 31, 2022
  9. terr

    terr

    For a Democracy to flourish you have to have a certain tradition of individualism and a law-based society. Neither exists in Russia.

    Also, Russian regimes, for generations upon generations, have been killing off and exiling the best, the cream of their society. When you do that for that long, what you have left is the dregs, sheep with no ambition, no initiative who just desire the "strong hand" of the government to tell them what to do.
     
    #19     Aug 31, 2022
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  10. d08

    d08

    Russia is going full-speed backwards now. I notice many, especially poorer Russians easily buy into this fantasy of the "Russian Empire", it's a nice substitute for reality but living in your head too much is never a good idea. I'm really curious what makes Russians different. Is it because of the genetic mix of Viking, Turk and Genghis Khan descendants who have this constant appetite to conquer more land, however irrational it might be?
     
    #20     Aug 31, 2022
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