Middle East Meltdown and US Foreign Policy.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SouthAmerica, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. You love this

    Gives you a reason to type these silly posts.

    Why don't you just go there and fight like a man instead of sniping at people here like a female?.

    Talking about this in the hypothetical is one thing, going there and throwing in with your heroes is quite another. To do that you would need courage, and you don't have it.

    Thats it.
     
    #201     Aug 12, 2006
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    Steve46: Why don't you just go there and fight like a man instead of sniping at people here like a female?



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    August 12, 2006

    SouthAmerica: Reply to Steve 46

    Why should I go there? I don’t have a dog on that fight. I am not a Moslem, or a Jew.

    I am someone who is saturated of listening since 1967 about the Israel’s problems on the Middle East. Israel has become like a disease that does not have a cure and comes back over and over again.

    In my opinion, there are more important things happening around the world to the other 6 billion people other than the constant Israeli/Palestinian problem related to a hand full of people.

    I am sure that the rest of the world also are sick and tired of this constant Israeli crisis with its neighbors.

    Enough is enough.

    For me personally – Israel is just a country located on a piece of desert and nothing else, since I am not a religious person.

    Not being a religious person I have no use for Israel. For me Israel it is just another little country such as Costa Rica, Honduras, or Guatemala.

    I have no desire of ever visiting Israel.


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    #202     Aug 12, 2006
  3. Holmes

    Holmes

    Yep.

    Have got quite a list of moonbats whose stuff I skip. Gets pretty peaceful for the old bloodpressure.

    Holmes.



    I used to think
    that 100 million monkeys
    on 100 million keyboards
    could eventually
    reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare
    but now
    thanks to the internet
    and seeing posts of the moonbats
    I know this not to be true
     
    #203     Aug 12, 2006
  4. maxpi

    maxpi

    One scholar analyzed one of the Papal Bulls. It condemned what I call "Bible Readers" over 100 times. It never condemned Moslems once.

    I have never been a Catholic or paid any attention to the Popes, bunch of old guys that fall asleep in the middle of a speech for all I know, but it is good to see where they are coming from.
     
    #204     Aug 12, 2006
  5. agree with SA on 1 point... up to my eyeballs with Israel /Palestine... almost wish s.o. nukes Jerusalem once and for all... 3 days notice, ya know...

    don't think the current wave will stop until there's a huge hezbollah death toll though, or some high profile hits (nasrallah wld be great!) or both, for exactly the reasons Friedman described... and thats for the better... hezbollah does NOT want peace...

    only winner so far is Iran though, bit of a worry... but that'll change when hezbollah gets crushed...
     
    #205     Aug 12, 2006
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    August 12, 2006

    SouthAmerica: It seems to me that when you talk about Israel and the Jews as an independent observer – as someone who sees it not from the religious point of view, but from another perspective – anything that is over exposed over and over again it loses its appeal after awhile and becomes just another pain in the ass.

    I am not interested on the problems of Israel and its Arab neighbors – I just want that problem to go away from my daily life – and places such as Jerusalem it does not mean a thing to me.

    Jews don’t understand that the times have changed and everything that is going on it is covered by the global mainstream media – one way or another – the Jews are losing control of their almost monopoly position in the media - And with television systems broadcasting the news 24/7 every single day – like everything else the people from around the world will get saturated of this constant Israel/Jewish problem that has been going on for decades.

    This global saturation of the Israel/Jewish constant crisis might start affecting the way people relates to Jews all over the world, because people will start feeling that they are the major trouble makers.

    What has happened in Lebanon in the last four weeks – with Israel inflicting a complete annihilation to another country – in this case Lebanon – with very little regard for the welfare of the civilian population of Lebanon including women, children, handicapped and retarded persons, the sick, and senior citizens – this will serve to desensitize the rest of the world regarding any suffering the Jews went through during WW II.

    This episode that is going on not only in Lebanon, but also against the Palestinians - it shows to the world that given the chance Israel and the Jews would act no different than other ruthless people did act against the Jews on various periods of history – the Jews have shown that they did not learn much from their own history and that given the chance they also go for the kill against much weaker people.

    On this message board there is a member called Holmes who keeps posting something about 100 monkeys over and over again. Maybe he is trying to show us that most monkeys have better communication skills than he does.

    It is obvious that “Optionpro007” and “Maxpi” are also Jewish and the only defense they have against the truths that I am posting on this message board is to say that they are going to unsign from mine future postings.

    When people such as these guys stop reading my posts gives me a sense of relief, because most of what they say in response to my postings it is non-sense anyway.

    This Israel/Jewish constant crisis reminds me of the movie “Network” (1974) when the anchorman of the television station played by Peter Finch goes to the window and started screaming: “I am mad as hell" and “I will not take anymore.”

    Maybe the solution is to put all the news related to Israel and the Jews into a single television network such as CBS channel 2 in New York, and free all of us from the constant rerun of the Israel/Jewish crisis with its Arab neighbors on the Middle East.

    “I am mad as hell" and “I will not take anymore” – “I am saturated” - Please make the Israel/Jewish crisis go away from the news and the mainstream media in general!!!!!!!!!!


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    #206     Aug 12, 2006
  7. yeah, similar reactions in Europe where i visited my folks recently - an editorial of a mainstream weekly pleading for "a day without: 1. Israel/Palestine 2: ..." - and here in Japan where Koizumi has publicly asked formally and informally on a number of occasions whether the Israeli weren't going a bit too far (yarisuginai?)? which in Japanese manners is pretty harsh criticism believe it or not...

    and as regards terrorist-type guerilla techniques, i fail to see much difference between the Israeli and the Arabs honestly...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_terrorism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kach
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo-Haifa_train_massacre
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_committed_during_the_1948_Arab-Israeli_war

    and going back further in time:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism#Precursors
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealot

    these guys need to get rid of their extremists / radicals / zealots on each side, the sooner the better...
     
    #207     Aug 13, 2006
  8. I agree in principle, however here in the US we haven't seen any Israeli terrorists trying to fly jets into our skyscrapers. Nor do they seem to want to blow up any of our buildings or kill innocent civilians. So I have to conclude that the Muslims (Arabs of all nationalities) are my enemies, and as I have suggested before, I favor dropping one or more tactical nuclear weapons on them. Also as I understand it if they were to be executed and then sewn into the carcasses of dead pigs, they would not be able to ascend to heaven. So I think that is what we should do to those that we capture. One shot to the head and into a dead pig for burial.

    I figure if they can kidnap people and behead them, we need to develop a method to discourage that and I will bet this works like a charm.....

    Lovely to talk with you crazies again, and if you are fanatic muslims I hope you develop cancer and leprosy, and die soon.

    Steve
     
    #208     Aug 13, 2006
  9. i'd think we stand a better chance if we get the moderate muslims of all origins and the secular or non-muslim arabs - thats an awful lot of people btw - to help snuff out the islamic radicals - thats a v.small number of people btw... as an incentive, i cld be wrong 'f course but, not sure a couple of nukes on the head is gonna help much... any alternative suggestions?

    e.g. how about simply butchering the radical iranian mollahs and whoever stands in the way, as well as those radical mollahs in the west who constantly preach hate and violence, and their followers? i mean if the khomeinys & co can issue death sentences (fatwas) from their shitholes in Qom, why do we have to put up with that? or was Qom one of yr targets? hopefully, there is a better way... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom
     
    #209     Aug 13, 2006
  10. bsmeter

    bsmeter


    The solution is so simple when I provide it, you'll go

    DOH!!! Why did'nt I think of that before!!

    Nuke Saudi Arabia.

    Barring that, just carpet bomb and flatten every palace.

    Then, sit back and grab a good cold beer and watch how fast radical Islamists simmer down. When their main source of financing dries up the professional terrorists will have to get a regular job like every one else.

    If you cut the snakes head off, there is'nt much the body can do. It withers and dies with time.

    Don't worry about Iran. When they see us nuke Saudi Arabia, their leaders will quiet down real fast. Also we need to tell our western leaders to shut the fuck up during their next elections. The Iranians themselves will kill their mullahs in due time like they killed the Shah. Ahmedabajin got elected because Bush could'nt keep his trap shut. All Ahmedabajin had to do was put up posters of Bush to get votes from the village idiots. Iranian village people are like American village people. They're addicted to fear and deception. American village people were told Saddam was coming across the Atlantic with a knife in his mouth to kill the idiots in their sleep. Ahmedabajin used the same trick on the Iranian village idiots.

    Try and read a few Iranian bloggers instead of depending on the ZioNazi Filth edited by the Knesset to get your perspective for the region.

    As for Israel, we give them enough money to finish building their wall and give them the technology to stop infliltration. Cut Jerusalem in half and build a wall separating the two sides. Help the Palestinians build toll roads connecting their territories and tell the Israelis to keep the fuck away from these roads. Israel intentionally keeps the Palestinians from connecting their territories so the palestinians have to depend on Israel to go from one area to another. That way no palestinian needs to set foot on Israel as they can ship imports from Gaza ports to the other territories.

    Any Israeli Jews caught spying on America should be swiftly executed on pay per view TV. Preferably mauled by a few starving African Lions. The punishment also apllied to the ZioNazis in congress who is found to be subverting American law. As it is, these days the Israelis don't even need to spy on America, the ZioNazi congress men give Israel a phone call as soon as they get out of their regular top secret military briefings. The proceeds from the pay per view TV shows will be expatriated to Israel in lieu of the $10 Billion American Taxpayers send it every year tax free.

    Lastly, there should be a litmus test apllied to every American politician. Are you for America? or are for Israel? Because when someone says he supports Israel "un conditionally" he is subverting American interest. Israel holds ZERO value for American interests in the region. On the Other hand Israel would not survive there more than 1 year without American tax payer financing its economy and military and providing it protection. The American tax payer needs to take care of his family first before worrying about how the Knesset will pay its salary next month.
    The $10 Billion America sends to Israel every year would be better spent at home building roads and schools for their kids future. It is an unwise expenditure. I am not against Israel, they have a right to exist peacefully. This will happen only when Israel re structures the Mossad to remove the elements who kill every Israeli peace maker. Look how fast Sharon went into a comma as soon as they figured he was serious on the peace issue, and he was one of their own. We all know what they did to Rabin. Once we nuke Saudi Arabia, we tell everyone in the region that Israel has been given the authority to nuke anyone who tries to invade. I doubt anyone will think about invading once they see the Saudis turned back to being a desert.
     
    #210     Aug 13, 2006