mid-level mba or cfa in tomarrows market?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by Hihatrider, Mar 2, 2009.

  1. Surdo

    Surdo

    Take your degree and experience and learn how to surf in Cabarete or Aproador!
     
    #31     Mar 22, 2009
  2. Is being AACSB accredited enough to get a valuable MBA?

    I ask because my school Jacksonville State U> is AACSB accredited and i don't have much confidence in their MBA program based off of what I've heard. I know that at least one class in the program is a standard Finance Major class (Financial Management), meaning, I'd be taking the same class with the same instructor again. that doesn't seem very mid-range to me.

    I don't mean to dis JSU's business school, because the undergrad stuff is great, but their MBA seems a little shady. Is that kind of class repeating common?
     
    #32     Mar 24, 2009
  3. Dobbes

    Dobbes

    It's shows that your MBA didn't come from a degree mill and that you actually learned something in your program. So your MBA will have value.

    Whether or not it has the type of value you want careerwise is another question. If you're worried about breaking into somewhere super competitive like GS, you'll need to build your resume up in other ways if your MBA is lacking in prestige. The best way to know if the MBA program will do what you want is to check who recruits MBA students on campus, and find the employment figures of grads.


    Your class repeating is definitely shady, but don't sweat it, they are probably just milking you for the extra tuition, and it doesn't necessarily reflect a low quality program. My school qualified me for about a semester's worth of exemption credits. You might be able to work out something similar.
     
    #33     Mar 24, 2009
  4. A CFA (equivalent to Masters of Finance) will make you a competitive candidate.

    A MBA from a top school will make you even more competitive. It is very important because everyone in Europe and Asia is obtaining them to even get into finance.

    None are required to have in trading/finance, but they are important at bigger institutions. Such a hierarchy exists at investment banks for example that these certifications make candidates seeking a promotion more competitive. At smaller firms, it has more to do with networking.

    Also, the people that are saying that investment banks will no longer exist need to shut up because that is just a foolish opinion. Just because Bear Stearns, Lehman, etc. became bankrupt and that GS will do S&L's now does not mean that this service will not be required. Someone will have to do things like Mergers & Acquisitions, IPOS, etc. It's only a matter of time before new derivatives will replace garbage like those CDOs. The industry is not growing now obviously, but it will eventually develop when the credit crisis subdues. This may take several years, maybe a decade unfortunately. Economist's can't predict this, so consult a psychic for the exact date.
     
    #34     Apr 10, 2009
  5. Hi, the MBA is useless in this day and age unless you're actually planning on owning your own business.

    I have used Kaplan to study for every financial credential I have, including Series 65, Life Insurance, CFA Level I that I passed last June, and am currently on Level II.

    I'm getting interviews for things like Vice President of Portfolio Management, CFO interviews, and other Portfolio Management opportunities. I'm finding the market is slow, but if you commit the time to it, this will be one of the best decisions of your life in taking the CFA exams.

    I'm not going to sugarcoat this. It's hard. If you have A's in Calc I and II at your school, a thorough understanding of economics in particular, I think you can do it. Micro and Macro is all they test, international is saved for Level II.

    (Just as a side note: I hope you don't expect to be able to pass Level I in June right now. You won't pass it. There's too much material. But good luck in December if that's the road you go down).

    FSA is my hardest subject to master. If you take some extra accounting courses, it will help, particularly managerial accounting with the FIFO LIFO bullshit.

    I found the best foundation I had was in economics, corporate finance, and quant. I only say quant b/c I have a minor in mathematics, and this is probably a real asset on test day.

    A thing that runs through my mind is finding a company to sponsor you. There is a work requirement to obtain your charter, and that's 4 years. Just remember, it's also going to test your understanding of ethics, and this I found to be a big surprise, since it's the deciding factor for marginal tests.
     
    #35     Apr 10, 2009
  6. I know quite a few CFA accountants, they're miserable, but employed, so I guess it's a toss-up.
     
    #36     Apr 10, 2009
  7. Certainly not true. Try getting a six-figure job at an investment back without a network.

    MBA makes you more competitive. It's almost a requirement for certain positions. It doesn't guarantee a job anywhere, but it makes you a more appealing candidate. The financial job mkt is extremely difficult right now, so experience will come before a MBA. Still, those "experienced" candidates likely have a MBA nevertheless,
     
    #37     Apr 11, 2009
  8. Are they miserable because they have a CFA or because they are accountants? I would to assume it has more with the fact that their job consists of crunching numbers on Excel or whatever everyday.

    I doubt most CFA portfolio managers or CFA analysts hate their jobs.
     
    #38     Apr 11, 2009
  9. CFA are those the guys that all lost 50% last year?

    MBA any day over CFA.
     
    #39     Apr 11, 2009
  10. Miserable because they have a CFA and they're accountants.

    Agreed. Unfortunately as they found out, the CFA was not a golden ticket to a portfolio management or analyst position.
     
    #40     Apr 11, 2009