Michael Saylor speaks...

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by The_Krakenite, May 10, 2022.

  1. savoir

    savoir

    Nothing wrong with that. I have a mantra that I tell my mentee to repeat: “Long only, without margin, in a bull market.”

    I told her to sideline in October last year. She cheated a few times and got stopped out and hung on to a few losers too long. I have her repeat the mantra each time.

    She asked me when we will implement shorting stocks into the method. I said not until she makes a million with the method in a bull market.

    Have to learn to crawl before learning to run.
     
    #71     Jun 13, 2022
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  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    I've had a good run with enery.

    There's a bitcoin short ETF in Canada but the big moves seem to occur over the weekend.

    Have to admit I'm one of those who badmouth bitcoin and don't have a position. I see it's value as a medium of exchange but not as a store of value. Might trade some if it ever turns around.
     
    #72     Jun 13, 2022
  3. savoir

    savoir

    We have the bear market. Bitcoin is the bear market on steroids. No Bitcoin ETFs here in the USA. I liked MSTR and SQ as proxies. For stocks I liked BA and DIS.
     
    #73     Jun 13, 2022
  4. Baron

    Baron Administrator

    Michael Saylor insists that MicroStrategy is not at risk of liquidation despite the recent Bitcoin crash.

    The MicroStrategy CEO retweeted a May 10 post today in which he laid out the company’s financial situation. In the original post, MicroStrategy claimed that it would only be at risk of getting liquidated on a $205 million loan it received to buy Bitcoin if the asset fell below $3,562. Even if it did crash to the $3,562 level, MicroStrategy “could post some other collateral” to avoid liquidation, Saylor said on May 10.

    Bitcoin has had a shaky week after falling to its lowest level since December 2020. It’s currently trading at around $22,500.

    In response to the market volatility, Saylor has reiterated that MicroStrategy is taking a long-term view to its Bitcoin holdings. “When MicroStrategy adopted a #Bitcoin strategy, it anticipated volatility and structured its balance sheet so that it could continue to #HODL through adversity,” Saylor wrote, referencing the “HODL” meme that refers to “holding” onto coins through volatile market conditions.

    MicroStrategy is the largest independent publicly-traded business intelligence company in the United States. The company started investing in Bitcoin as a treasury reserve asset in August 2020, citing a weakening dollar and global macroeconomic conditions.

    According to its First Quarter 2022 Financial Results report, the company owned a total of 129,218 Bitcoin worth $2.9 billion at today’s prices as of Mar. 31, 2022. Its average purchase price is around $30,700, which means Bitcoin would need to fall another 27% for the firm to see a paper loss on its investment.

    Other documents also show that 19,466 Bitcoin from MicroStrategy’s stash has been pledged to Silvergate Bank for collateral on the $205 million loan it received to add to its Bitcoin reserves. The collateral value at the time was $820 million; at today’s prices it is closer to $440 million. 95,643 of MicroStrategy’s Bitcoin remains unencumbered, meaning the company still has over $2.1 billion to pledge as collateral.

    MicroStrategy’s stock (MSTR) is trading at $164.57 at the time of writing, up 7.79% on the day. Despite the uptick, the stock is 87% short of its February 2021 all-time high of $1,311.
     
    #74     Jun 14, 2022
  5. You guys made me take another look at MicroStrategy. Tempted to buy the sell-off, but I just don't know what to do with the stock. No dividend payouts, and negative EPS.

    Things were much different when everyone panic-sold off OIL equities and Cathy Wood was saying how oil is going to stay below 6 bucks a barrel (or something like that). Of course, I dived into oil stocks... But I knew I'd be getting positive EPS and dividend payouts, even if they were temporarily reduced.
     
    #75     Jun 14, 2022
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Sorry but that's ridiculous.

    Bear market could be around for years. Could be.

    Too bad for her?
     
    #76     Jun 14, 2022
  7. Longs in MSTR from 1300 upload_2022-6-14_15-55-17.png or whatever the high was , have already been liquidated.
     
    #77     Jun 14, 2022
  8. Alright, I'm tempted to do something Buffett says don't... 'don't waste money'. lol.

    Maybe I'll buy just one share @ $150 CAN so I can ride along with the drama. If she implodes, thats 130K bitcoins that will be liquidated into the market, causing a flash-crash we have not seen the likes of since the 2010 equities fiasco. So I should set limit-buys for BtC at those double-digit prices just in case it spikes down. I've missed a lot of these bottom-feeding flash-crash snatches over the years.

    If she holds... then it can work out as a great trade. So... this is how I can talk myself into a win-win situation. Haha..
     
    #78     Jun 14, 2022
  9. deaddog

    deaddog

    Why? She and I are not going to lose any money. With interest rates rising we can stick the cash in a daily interest rate account and even make a little.
     
    #79     Jun 14, 2022
  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    No matter how long bear market lasts?

    You are looking at recent past history. Look further back.

    I have no idea how long it will last. I just know the possibility exists that it may last a lot longer than most think it will.
     
    #80     Jun 14, 2022
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