Michael Moore Scorns Obama

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Maverick74, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. Please, I implore you, try to find inconsistency in my posts. Pluuueezzzeeee?

    Discrimination is discrimination period. If a black man opens a popeyes in southwest Atlanta, and refuses to serves everyone, I will be first in line to strip him of his franchise. I am on record as saying the KKK should not be stripped of their right to free speech.

    The hypocrite here is you. U openly advocate segregation. And yet espouse liberty. The liberty to oppress, apparently.


    Sad sad sad.
     
    #91     Mar 23, 2011
  2. Business is governed by legal rights, and legal wrongs...

    No, you are not free to have an open to the public business, and discriminate whom to serve on the basis of race, religion, ethnicity, gender, etc.

    Have your whites only private clubs all you like...march in Neo Nazi groups with the proper permits...but legally you can't have it both ways...

    "Rather, I want the freedom to "hang with", do business with, hire, fire, etc anyone I please, on any basis I so please."

    Translation: I want to practice racism as I damn well please...

     
    #92     Mar 23, 2011
  3. Your creative definition of xenophobia would describe the mexicans and blacks slaughtering each other, bleeding the streets red in los angeles, not me. It would describe the violent crime and rape which blacks commit upon whites at over 1200% the rate whites commit such crimes upon blacks, despite being only 12% of the population, not me.

    I don't have any "hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign". In fact, I have a great deal of respect and interest in some foreign cultures. I do, like many others, have an affinity for my own group/culture. Then again, that's perfectly natural.

     
    #93     Mar 23, 2011
  4. My definition is from Websters.....argue with them.
     
    #94     Mar 23, 2011
  5. "I do, like many others, have an affinity for my own group/culture. Then again, that's perfectly natural. "

    You do know that children unconditioned by culture, don't have an affinity for their own group/culture. They don't see race, gender, etc. as a way to feel different, superior or inferior to others. They notice the differences, sure, but they don't attribute value to those differences. Culture does that dirty work.

    Culture is not natural actually, culture is a shaping of the mind in a manner that is often most unnatural.

    Just look at children who have not been polluted by their respective culture to see what is natural...

     
    #95     Mar 23, 2011
  6. Children are not born racist

    Children are not, by nature, racist. They are not born with damaging assumptions about people in any definable group. We all begin with a winning trust in others, an expectation that people will be good to each other, and that life with others will be safe and fun. When a child feels close to his parents, gets to play freely with lots of laughter, gets plenty of affection, and has sensible limits set by grown-ups who don't attack him, a young person can feel at home with himself, and relaxed with others.

    Teaching children about race and cultural diversity can be found at http://childparenting.about.com/od/socialdevelopment/a/teachdiversity.htm.

     
    #96     Mar 23, 2011
  7. I already point out the inconsistency in your posts. You said that discrimination should be illegal, yet you have defended "affirmative action" and "diversity" programs (which are anti white discrimination programs). Asking what assurances you would have for black people if those programs were abandoned...

    You never neglect the right of blacks to have black civic, professional, and commercial associations, you'd probably have something to say about a "white bar association", a white only private school, a "white chamber of commerce", because blacks have all those things...

    This is not about the KKK. You obviously didn't get the memo, but there is more to white people than the KKK. There are the millions of white students who don't get into university even though they had grades as good as or better than nonwhites, yet the university had to have non whites to meet the anti white quotas. There are millions of white people who can't go to school every year, because extra funding was given to non whites on the basis of race, simply because they weren't white, even when the white pupil had better scores. There are millions of white people who get passed up for jobs, even thought they are more qualified, simply because they are white. That is discrimination. Yet, you don't have any problem with that. In fact, you have defended it. So, who was the "racist" again? LOL!!

    I have never advocated racial segregation, openly or otherwise. I have advocated freedom of association, sorry you're unable to understand the difference. Anything which is legally forced, be it integration or segregation, is tyranny. If association is completely voluntary, then that's liberty. I know your pea brain has a hard time processing such abstract ideas sometimes, but give it a try, just for me...

    If a black man opens a popeyes in Bankhead, Ashby, wherever. If that black man got a franchise, business license, gathered his own capital to risk, etc I'd be the last person on Earth to tell him how to run his own damn business. You wouldn't hear so much as a word from me about how he should be forced to serve anyone, for any reason. His business, he calls the shots. Same to everyone else. It's called freedom, consider it.

    What problem do you really have? Do you think that if freedom was granted, that everyone would automatically segregate? What? Do you think everyone is inherently racist or something?That's kind of insulting. Even if your insulting claim is true, and all people (when what you mean is white people) were inherently racist do you think that black people aren't capable of hacking it on their own? Because many black people would find that insulting too...What are you so afraid of?

     
    #97     Mar 23, 2011
  8. Are you going to respond to my point, or are you just going to throw little baby tantrums like this and suck your thumb?

    Your creative definition of xenophobia would describe the mexicans and blacks slaughtering each other, bleeding the streets red in los angeles, not me. It would describe the violent crime and rape which blacks commit upon whites at over 1200% the rate whites commit such crimes upon blacks, despite being only 12% of the population, not me.

    I don't have any "hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign". In fact, I have a great deal of respect and interest in some foreign cultures. I do, like many others, have an affinity for my own group/culture. Then again, that's perfectly natural.

     
    #98     Mar 23, 2011
  9. Oh, really... Well, not to burst your mythological bubble, but science disagrees with you... Now, back off to your little cultural marxist fantasy land... LOL!!!

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    See Baby Discriminate
    Kids as young as 6 months judge others based on skin color. What's a parent to do?

    Her first step was to give the children a Racial Attitude Measure, which asked such questions as:
    How many White people are nice?
    (Almost all) (A lot) (Some) (Not many) (None)

    How many Black people are nice?
    (Almost all) (A lot) (Some) (Not many) (None)
    During the test, the descriptive adjective "nice" was replaced with more than 20 other adjectives, like "dishonest," "pretty," "curious," and "snobby."
    Vittrup sent a third of the families home with multiculturally themed videos for a week, such as an episode of Sesame Street in which characters visit an African-American family's home, and an episode of Little Bill, where the entire neighborhood comes together to clean the local park.
    In truth, Vittrup didn't expect that children's racial attitudes would change very much just from watching these videos. Prior research had shown that multicultural curricula in schools have far less impact than we intend them to—largely because the implicit message "We're all friends" is too vague for young children to understand that it refers to skin color.
    Yet Vittrup figured explicit conversations with parents could change that. So a second group of families got the videos, and Vittrup told these parents to use them as the jumping-off point for a discussion about interracial friendship. She provided a checklist of points to make, echoing the shows' themes. "I really believed it was going to work," Vittrup recalls.
    The last third were also given the checklist of topics, but no videos. These parents were to discuss racial equality on their own, every night for five nights.
    At this point, something interesting happened. Five families in the last group abruptly quit the study. Two directly told Vittrup, "We don't want to have these conversations with our child. We don't want to point out skin color."
    Vittrup was taken aback—these families volunteered knowing full well it was a study of children's racial attitudes. Yet once they were aware that the study required talking openly about race, they started dropping out.
    It was no surprise that in a liberal city like Austin, every parent was a welcoming multiculturalist, embracing diversity. But according to Vittrup's entry surveys, hardly any of these white parents had ever talked to their children directly about race.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2009/09/04/see-baby-discriminate.html


     
    #99     Mar 23, 2011

  10. Well, let's see now. America was founded in 1775. Civil rights act passed in 1968. Essentially you want the repeal of the civil rights act. That realization speaks volumes upon volumes.

    Now, logically, if you were right and all, we have to consider 193 years of segregation vs. 43 years of desegregation. I would not go long desegregation based on the chart. Definitely a bear market rally so far, although a huge gap up with the election of Obama, so you are here to try and fill that gap. Basic market forces at work :D

    I am not afraid of anything as I can compete with the best and the brightest in the world, not just this nation. But I am not stupid either, and what you are suggesting is tantamount to deregulation of banks, and you see how that went, right?

    No. There have to checks and balances to regulate people like you. And, btw, Rand Paul was elected because of Ron Paul de facto, kinda like the way dubya became president.
     
    #100     Mar 23, 2011