MFGlobal & PFG Best, we're rooked without your help

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by dangerkitty, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. I hope that views of MS accounts are put in ASAP....
     
    #11     Aug 31, 2012
  2. Well, as you note, there are no segregated fund requirements for Forex dealers, so Forex has to be excluded from the requirement to give online access to segregated funds accounts.

    They are not required either to maintain anything equivalent to that, other than net capital etc.

    I think it is counter-productive and detracts from your credibility to ask for the impossible.

    Instead, ask for other forms of disclosure (audited financial statements) or for a new requirement that Forex dealers segregate funds also. But this will be violently opposed by Forex dealers and would likely cause many of them to go out of business.

    If you want to see a new segregated funds regime instituted for Forex dealers, this could be a good idea but would totally change the business models of Forex dealers and is not something that could piggyback on a technical change like the present one. Extensive hearings etc. would be needed.
     
    #12     Aug 31, 2012
  3. You are correct in stating that "seg funds" is a steep hill for NFA to climb at the moment because of the way the current law is written. My point is not to demand NFA do the impossible. Rather, my fear is that retail forex is being forgotten amidst the collapse of PFG, in which thousands of retail forex customers lost their investment.

    We will continue to push for further financial disclosures by brokers and better accounting standards as the process moves along. However, unless retail forex traders contact regulators to implore them to propose better customer protections the industry will largely be forgotten.
     
    #13     Sep 4, 2012
  4. I've been asked why retail forex does not have seg funds protection and so I wanted to pass along this brief regulatory history of the retail foreign exchange market:

    In 2001 retail online currency trading was regulated for the first time with the passage of the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 (“CFMA”). This law provided that any non-bank firm making a market in retail FX transactions could be registered and licensed by the Commodities Futures Trading Commission (“CFTC”). This law was a step in the right direction but it did not in any way grant customers trading FX with these firms any funds protection in the event of bankruptcy as is common in exchange traded markets such as equities and futures.

    In particular, the CFMA did not make any adjustments to the CFTC’s “segregation rule.” The segregation rule stipulates that all client funds deposited for trading domestic, on exchange futures or options on futuresbe kept segregated from all company funds and that in the event of bankruptcy the customer’s funds are legally segregated from creditors and must be returned to the clients.

    In May 2008, Congress amended the Commodity Exchange Act (“CEA”) and created an entirely new registration category, the Retail Foreign Exchange Dealer (“RFED”), for forex dealers operating in the U.S. Neither at that time nor two years later when Congress enacted sweeping financial sector reform legislation with the Dodd-Frank Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2010 were provisions included that could have provided for RFEDs to segregate funds for the protection of retail FX customers

    The CFTC explained the reason for not including segregation of funds for retail FX as follows:

    http://www.cftc.gov/ucm/groups/public/@lrfederalregister/documents/file/2010-21729a.pdf


    “… Several commenters maintained that the Commission should require segregation of customer funds by counterparties in order to provide some protection in the event of a counterparty insolvency. The Commission’s segregation requirements with regard to futures flow from Section 4d of the Act which, generally speaking, requires that customer property for trading commodity contracts be kept apart, or segregated, from the FCM’s own funds. However, as noted in the Commission’s proposing release, a segregated funds regime cannot be replicated in the context of off-exchange retail forex trading. Unlike segregation of customer funds deposited for futures trading, under the relevant provisions of the Bankruptcy Code, such amounts held in connection with retail forex trading would not receive any preferential treatment to unsecured creditors in bankruptcy.”

    This hiccup with the bankruptcy code is what is currently holding up everything from seg funds protection to insurance. More in my next post.
     
    #14     Sep 5, 2012
  5. Next Wednesday morning the CFTC will be holding a meeting where they are expected to announce additional post-PFG customer protections. As I discussed in my previous post the absence of any language pertaining to off-exchange, retail forex transactions in the bankruptcy code is the given reason cited by regulators as to why no additional protections for retail forex traders can be put in place. It will likely also be the reason that retail forex will be excluded from any insurance scheme. We shall see on Wednesday.

    However, this would not preclude regulators from requiring FCM's/RFED's from disclosing their financials on a quarterly basis or requiring tougher accounting standards. In fact, absent insurance protection or seg funds these may be the only protections that can be offered to the retail forex community. Since customers cannot rely on clear legal language to protect them in the event of bankruptcy it becomes even more imperative that customers be able to see for themselves just how sturdy the retail forex broker they are doing business with is. Comments can still be submitted to CFTC by emailing secretary@cftc.gov
     
    #15     Sep 7, 2012
  6. Last week the Trustee of PFG's estate announced a series of limited distributions to customers of the bankrupt firm. Of interest to retail forex traders is that the estate is not making any current distributions to PFG customers who were trading off-exchange forex:

    http://www.omnimgt.com/CMSVol/CMSDoc...333616_147.pdf


    Quote:
    “The Forex Customers and the Metals Customers, however, do not hold claims against the Debtor on account of "commodity contracts" and therefore, are not "customers" under § 761(9) of the Bankruptcy Code and the Part 190 Rules. Accordingly, in accordance with subchapter IV and the Part 190 Rules, the distributions requested under the Motion, discussed below, will apply solely to the Futures Customers. Forex Customers and Metals Customers will not be included in such distributions and their claims will be addressed separately as part of the case."

    The way the law is written the trustee is justified in putting futures customers first. This is why it has become urgent that regulators take additional steps to bring transparecy to the futures/forex industry so that customers can have a look at their broker's finances in order to weigh the risks invovled before putting funds on deposit with them. Since the law is not designed to currently protect forex investors, then traders need to protect themselves. This starts with granting traders the ability to conduct greater due diligence. If regulators can mandate that brokers disclose profitability ratios surely they can also mandate greater financial disclosure.

    CFTC to announce initial recommendations this week. Contact secretary@cftc.gov with your thoughts.
     
    #16     Sep 11, 2012
  7. As regulators continue to investigate PFG news is coming out showing that the futures firm had been losing money for years:

    http://www.valuewalk.com/2012/09/pfgbest-in-more-trouble-as-liabilities-outweigh-assets/


    QUOTE:

    "Its financial statement submitted to the court, indicated that the business has been going down since 2010. The company suffered $2.7 million in gross income losses in 2010, $1.2 million in losses in 2011, and $259,000 losses during the six month period of the current fiscal year."

    PFG had recorded three straight years of losses. And yet they had just moved into an $18 million glass and steel office complex in Iowa boasting some of the most luxurious office amenities imaginable. But because PFG never had to disclose their losses they were able to give customers the impression that the firm was healthy and growing, when in fact it was sick and contracting. Customers should be aware of this before they open an account. Particularly since there is no insurance for futures or forex.

    The CFTC postponed their vote on additional customer protections this week giving traders a little more time to comment.
     
    #17     Sep 14, 2012
  8. The National Futures Association has added some additional public financial information on their BASIC search function effective September 1:

    http://www.nfa.futures.org/news/newsNotice.asp?ArticleID=4109



    These actions are a step in the right direction. Clearly, regulators believe that public disclosure of FCM financial accounts are beneficial to customers as they conduct their due diligence. It therefore follows that additional financial disclosures (complete disclosure of a FCM's balance sheet for example) would empower traders to an even greater degree.
     
    #18     Sep 18, 2012
  9. The federal bankruptcy judge in the PFG case authorized a series of initial customer distributions today. http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2012/09/20/pfg-best-customers-to-get-money-back/

    The fate of PFG's retail forex customers remains in doubt. The CFTC has yet to announce their proposed reforms. Retail forex needs to be a part of these reforms. We're still encouraging traders to contact CFTC at secretary@cftc.gov to voice their concern.
     
    #19     Sep 20, 2012
  10. That's rich, like the same concern about Mr. W. getting our money that didn't belong to him. Thanks for looking alive for us. 30% in the first payout and that's the biggest bulk of it, you know where we stand, ouch.

    MFG still has 20% and after payout, PFG will have 70%, yeah the double whammy for me, sure make's me feel 100% good that the CFTC is on top of it. [sarcasm]
     
    #20     Sep 22, 2012