Methods for gaining muscle and losing fat

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Baron, Jul 24, 2011.

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  1. From the studies I've read this isn't true for most people. Creatine has hundreds of studies and evidence that it has several benefits for muscle, heart and mind with very few negative side effects. IMO behind whey the top fitness supplement.
     
    #631     Sep 8, 2012
  2. baro-san

    baro-san

    Jorge Cruise's original book "8 Minutes in the Morning" for every one of your inquiries. I've been using it for over 10 years, with great results.
     
    #632     Sep 8, 2012
  3. baro-san

    baro-san

    "The Hacker's Diet - How to lose weight and hair through stress and poor nutrition" by John Walker, is great too.
     
    #633     Sep 8, 2012

  4. It's a complex issue. Anyway, there are literally dozens of abstracts on pubmed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18188581?dopt=Abstract
     
    #634     Sep 8, 2012
  5. Brass

    Brass

    I know, and I read the highlights of a few of them. And, in isolation, I imagine that there is no harm. But, again, I refer to the cumulative effect of a number of different kinds of supplements, each of which may have a marginally taxing effect on the kidneys and such. In my case, it would only be a somewhat higher level of protein intake than the mainstream recommendation, so I suspect there would not be any real harm in my taking creatine. But what about the guys who take a number of different things, each of which has a marginally taxing effect?

    The other thing, as I mentioned, is that soon after I stopped taking it, the incremental effects went away. So I would have to keep taking creatine indefinitely to maintain the effect. To what end? If I were engaged in a competitive activity for my livelihood and I felt creatine gave me a bit of a boost, then it would make sense for me to take the stuff while I relied on that activity. But I'm just a weekend warrior looking to remain very fit and healthy, so would creatine really add to that equation?

    Are you taking creatine?
     
    #635     Sep 9, 2012
  6. TRS

    TRS

    Brass,

    do some due diligence on Tongkat ali and Mucuna pruriens.

    Tongkat hits the leydig cells and Mucuna adrenals.

    I defer to those with greater knowledge.

    I live in Australia and customs is red hot so looking for advice to increase test?
     
    #636     Sep 9, 2012
  7. Brass

    Brass

    I did not respond to your post right away because it intrigued me, and so I did a bit of reading. I found some sites that mention studies reporting additional health benefits of creatine supplementation, which include improved brain performance, energy levels and memory, as well as anxiety reduction. And so, I e-mailed a local well-known scientist and university professor to ask for his opinion on these additional benefits. I just received his e-mail response, which essentially says that he has not seen any compelling evidence in the peer-reviewed literature that would support this view. And so, while that does not suggest such benefits don't exist, I think I'll adopt a wait-and-see approach until the research is more compelling.
     
    #637     Sep 9, 2012
  8. Not currently.

    It increases RAP and the increase in flow elevates certain markers of function. I have a friend who had kids late and has a son with Down's. His hypotonia is treated with creatine. Prior to the creatine the child has progressive scoliosis with a 27-degree left-thoracic deviation. After 6 months on the creatine the child has a 6-degree deviation which is well within 1sigma of the general population. No other treatment was taken. It should not have corrected and it's somewhat anecdotal but seems to be a result of the aggressive creatine supplementation.

    The only other time I've seen an adolescent progressive scoliosis resolve was under an aggressive oxandrolone treatment.
     
    #638     Sep 9, 2012
  9. Brass

    Brass

    Thanks, TRS, both sound interesting. But I'm not looking to play too much with my body chemistry. I, too, will defer to those with greater knowledge.
     
    #639     Sep 9, 2012
  10. TRS

    TRS

    Understood....

    My concern is what you state......

    Tongkat rocks the balls
     
    #640     Sep 9, 2012
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