Methods for gaining muscle and losing fat

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Baron, Jul 24, 2011.

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  1. Brass

    Brass

    And you think intense resistance training doesn't do the same?



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    #341     Jun 26, 2012
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I have not seen the same results. I also think there is a greater chance of injury with the resistance training. I just can't get up to the same intensity with weights as I can without them. One can try, but without getting hurt? Doubt it.
     
    #342     Jun 26, 2012
  3. Brass

    Brass

    Depends on the exercises you do and how you do them, I suppose. And form is always important, even in repetitive aerobic work, where small mistakes compound over time. You won't get metabolism-enhancing intensity doing dumbell tricep kickbacks, but doing compound exercises to failure using several muscle groups simultaneously is a different story. In any event, a proper resistance routine will raise your metabolic rate and keep it there for many hourse after you finish, just like burst training, and rather unlike aerobic exercise. Wouldn't you agree?

    Some interesting reading:

    http://www.theiflife.com/cardio-priority-fat-loss/
     
    #343     Jun 26, 2012
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I'm not saying one is better then the other, I'm just saying which one I had better results with. If Baron is concerned about muscle loss, I would advise him to up his calories and focus more on burst training in addition to his regular workouts. Burst training is short and you really only need to do it once or twice a week. Shouldn't interfere with his regular workout.
     
    #344     Jun 26, 2012
  5. Brass

    Brass

    Fair point. I guess the only observation I can raise in response is that if he's already doing his resistance training intensely, and with sufficient compound work, then he's already essentially getting the benefits of what burst training has to offer. The only question then is how much is enough. I guess Baron will decide for himself. Good point, though.
     
    #345     Jun 26, 2012
  6. EON Kid

    EON Kid

    I did some Pistol squats and Sissy squats thanks for reminding me of these exercises



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    Milos Sarcev SUPERGIANT sets

    http://youtu.be/A_lYHvuZIeY

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    #346     Jun 26, 2012
  7. Brass

    Brass

    They're great exercises, aren't they? Actually, even though I only started doing these just over a month or so ago, I will be taking sissy squats out of the equation, at least for now. Whereas I was doing 3 sets of pistols and 2 sets of sissy squats, I will now just be doing 4 sets of (weighted) pistol squats for upper legs (3 times a week). They just feel much more comprehensive and intense, and after 4 sets to virtual failure with rather short breaks in between, I am dripping in sweat. My aim is maximum compound for maximum intensity: best bang for the buck.
     
    #347     Jun 26, 2012
  8. EON Kid

    EON Kid


    My aim is maximum stimulation, so I mix it up, no favorites [​IMG]
     
    #348     Jun 26, 2012
  9. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    As an update, I just completed the first week of the revised workout I posted recently on page 57 of this thread. Specifically, I removed cardio altogether and replacing that with weight training, which results in weight training six days a week. Forget all of that overtraining nonsense. Just go in there and do it and see how you feel by the end of the week. Please report back if you do.

    Personally, this will end up being the workout plan that really works for me. I can already tell. The scale doesn't say I've gained much weight, but I know for a fact that I have lost some fat and gained a little bit of muscle this past week and my muscles also feel very "full", which is a great feeling. I'm liking everything about this workout plan so far, so I encourage those of you that would be categorized as "hard gainers" like myself to it a try. If nothing else, you are going to feel tight as hell by the end of the week, like you really accomplished something in the gym instead of spinning your wheels again for yet another 7 days.
     
    #349     Jul 4, 2012
  10. Brass

    Brass

    You're welcome. :D

    Kidding aside, how much time do your six workouts add up to over the course of the week, and how many total sets per muscle group, all in, do you do with this new approach? Also, do you distinguish between maximum set numbers for larger and smaller muscle groups?

    As for your comment about "overtraining nonsense," I think you're somewhat off the mark. Overtraining is not necessarily the result of workout frequency. I think it probably comes down to an overreaching combination of workout intensity and/or frequency and/or volume and/or duration. Such overreach obviously varies by individual. And while overtraining has a number of symptoms, I think one of the first tells is otherwise unexplained insomnia. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. I'd be interested to hear what others think.
     
    #350     Jul 4, 2012
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