Methods for gaining muscle and losing fat

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Baron, Jul 24, 2011.

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  1. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    Thanks for sharing that. I'm going to buy some raw walnuts tonight at Trader Joe's.

    I've been avoiding walnuts because of a very slight allergy to black walnuts (the roof of my mouth hurts a little) but I'm fine with regular walnuts and will start eating them again.
     
    #241     Jun 5, 2012
  2. ammo

    ammo

    I was eating them in the fall of 2010 and my hands dried out and skin started to flake,i may have an allergy or was eating too many,i think 3 or 4 ,like one tbsp is all you need per day,i think i ate a couple of 1 lb bags in 2 weeks
     
    #242     Jun 5, 2012
  3. Brass

    Brass

    No argument there. At the top level, given that these guys all work out, eat well and take steroids, the best genetics will win out, all else being equal. But it also goes without saying that the guy with the best genetics wouldn't even place in today's BB competitions without the benefit of steroids.

    In any event, I have no idea what draws these people to the kinds of bulk they have or want to have. I'd rather look like a gymnast than a bodybuilder. Sure, as a kid I was drawn to the idea of being a BMOC, and I wanted to look like Frank Zane in his prime. (And he was one of the smaller guys.) But the look is so high maintenance. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Then there is the matter of functional and relative strength. As strong as these behemoths are, I bet most of them couldn't do a single unweighted pistol squat.
     
    #243     Jun 5, 2012
  4. Be careful with ursolic acid:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21703625

    You may be trading short-term gains for long-term problems.

    Patrick Arnold's reputation is, at best, mixed. I am not sure that citing his self-interested medical opinion advances the discussion.
     
    #244     Jun 6, 2012
  5. Brass

    Brass

    I had actually seen that site before I first commented on the substance. However, because there was also some apparently supportive material to be found on the Internet, I didn't cite any specific material. Instead, I just made a couple of my own general observations. But I also e-mailed a scientist who I periodically tap for information, Dr. Joe Schwarcz, Director, McGill Office for Science and Society. I sent him links to the mouse study and supporting material. He was a bit late getting back to me, which is the reason for my delay in posting. Here is his response:

    There are hundreds of papers like this attesting to all sorts of biological effects in mice…the question is what about humans? A mouse is not a small man. Until there is a proper randomized study in humans I wouldn’t touch the stuff. Eat well and exercise…that’s the magic formula.

    His department's web site: http://www.mcgill.ca/oss/


    And so, being on the risk-averse side, I think I'll wait.
     
    #245     Jun 8, 2012
  6. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    The problem is that the medical community is generally about 15 - 20 years behind when it comes to human-based research studies. By the time they get around to studying the effects of ursolic acid on humans, 10 - 20 more compounds will have been discovered that work even better based on anecdotal evidence.
     
    #246     Jun 8, 2012
  7. Brass

    Brass

    Maybe. Maybe not. And so, we each decide for ourselves the level of exposure and risk to which we subject ourselves.

    Please keep us posted from time to time. Proof of life, and all that. :D
     
    #247     Jun 8, 2012
  8. TRS

    TRS

    Very interesting split.
    Hitting chest, back, arms and shoulders in one session. I take it that muscle groups are trained in this order, and you're hitting them with just the one exercise?

    Once again, very interesting approach which has obviously yielded dividends for yourself.

    Congratulations on your achievement.
     
    #248     Jun 9, 2012
  9. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    Yeah in that order so the exercises would be as follows:

    Chest would be dumbbell presses or flies.

    Back thickness would be seated rows or bent over rows with dumbbells.

    Back width would be pulldowns with an overhanded wide grip, or an underhanded narrow grip.

    Triceps would be dips or pushdowns.

    Biceps would be standing bicep curls, or standing hammer curls.

    Shoulders would be lateral raises or upright rows. (I can't do overhead presses anymore because my right shoulder hurts so bad when I do them.) I'm lucky though, because if I have any genetically gifted areas, it's my shoulders and traps.
     
    #249     Jun 9, 2012
  10. TRS

    TRS

    Having seen your pictures, you've achieved a good return relative to expenditure. I'm not saying you haven't gone hard in the gym. I guess quality over quantity.

    How long have you been using this routine?

    Cheers
     
    #250     Jun 9, 2012
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