Message to rich people, here is what even you don't get

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Unit001, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Quotes from SandyBestDog:

    "You are right about one thing. Poor people are poor because they keep doing the same thing, like getting a job........They should instead figure out a why to screw the rich at their own game so that they can again receive an honest days pay for an honest days work."

    "I actually still live with my parents. They have never been in a hurry to kick me out and I have never been in a hurry to start paying rent."

    "Many baby boomers have what they have today, not because they are smarter or more hard working than the youth of today, but because really, they got lucky."

    "Then when they get out of college, they are surprised to find that you actually have to compete for jobs now."

    "Oh and by the way, a few months ago, I started a forex micro account with $25. I don’t know how I did it considering I pretty much used the same losing methods that haven’t worked in the past....."

    "Look, I don’t want a job, I don’t want a career. I am not that type of person."

    "So here’s what I want to do next. I figure the best way to screw the rich and make a bunch of money, is to go take it from them."

    "So I bought a battery, wind turbine, and solar panel. The problem is, I have no idea what I’m doing."


    Good luck guy. You might want to be nice to Mama, because with your attitude, you're going to be living in her house a long time.
     
    #71     Jun 15, 2009
  2. volente_00

    volente_00



    I've never seen someone make so many excuses. If you make as little as you claim,because of your age you are no longer a dependent, YOU WILL QUALIFY for student loans to cover your tuition while you live at home and may even be able to get a pell grant. You are still young but if you don't break this pattern of self sabotage you will be stuck in this situation for life. If you spend less time on ET arguing and more time on fixing your situation you will get there a lot sooner. I continue to pray for you daily Stefan, please do me a favor and go spend a few dollars on this book and thank me later.


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    #72     Jun 16, 2009
  3. You said:
    To which I responded:
    Why else would I try trading and start a business? How else would you like me to plan for my future? Sit around and hope someone is going to give me a job? If you want me to do that, I would say that makes you an idiot. Starting a business is taking things into my own hands and planning my own future.
     
    #73     Jun 21, 2009
  4. Thanks for that. I generally paid good prices for the machines I got. They just didn’t make any money. There were some that I bought from a company and paid too much for, but the problem wasn’t paying too much for them. You’d spend a long time finding a location or hire a locating service, but then you’d put the machine there and it might make $15 a month or something like that. It wasn’t worth it. Plus then it would get abused and you’d have to fix it. The only way to really make a lot is to buy the bigger soda and snack machines and get agreements with company’s to put it in their locations. That takes a little more capital. It’s a nickel and dime business, so you gotta have a lot of volume, which I wasn’t able to get.
     
    #74     Jun 21, 2009
  5. Actually, he's right.

    Nobody cares where you went to college, especially the first 2 years, unless you want a job on Wall Street or academia. Most community colleges are extremely inexpensive.

    It won't pay off now. However, in 5-10 years you may have a job that actually pays a livable wage. It will be a lot easier to save money then.

    If you don't do it now, your situation won't change.
     
    #75     Jun 21, 2009
  6. Not true.

    There are plenty of Americans who are willing to work in skilled labor. Nobody wants to hire them.

    I work in construction, but I only got the job because I have a bachelors degree in construction management. After high school, I applied for apprenticeship with IBEW, UA, and SMWIA in 3 different cities. I qualified for several interviews, but never got the job depsite scoring near perfect of the aptitude tests. These jobs go to somebody's brother-in-law.

    After I had a degree, they almost had to hire me on. If you do land these types of jobs, you better be prepared to put with a lot of bullshit for the first five years. As an apprentice, you're lowlier than shit.
     
    #76     Jun 21, 2009
  7. Yea I used to deliver pizza and made a lot of money doing that, but it’s no good anymore. There are too many drivers there and too few delivery’s. I used to be able to make $80-100 in tips a night, plus minimum wage. When I left I was making about $20 a night and below minimum wage. Plus gas and car repairs all cost more. Every other aspect of the cost of living has gone up in the past 6 years except car insurance.

    I keep mentioning insurance because it exemplifies most areas that have gone up substantially over the past several years. I am going to look into different insurance soon. I have to have some eye surgery coming up. I know the insurance I have will cover that no problem. One thing I don’t understand about these high deductible plans is what you actually pay. When I go to the doctor, they send me the explanation of benefits statement. It says that the doctor charges say $100 for something, but they have agreed to accept $60 for it from insurance. I pay the $30 co-pay and the insurance pays the doctor $30. If I get one of these high deductible plans of say $2000, are they going to charge me the $100? That wouldn’t make much sense then. I just went to the doctor the other day. For 15 minutes worth of tests with a tech and 10 minutes with the doctor, the office charge is $450. I know insurance is only going to pay probably $200, which seems like a reasonable amount.
     
    #77     Jun 21, 2009
  8. Cutten

    Cutten

    That's one of the theories behind the welfare state. No top rate taxpayer can ever be accurately described as greedy.
     
    #78     Jun 21, 2009
  9. Cutten

    Cutten

    The vast majority (90% ish) of jobs aren't even advertised. Sending in CVs in response to ads has the lowest % chance of getting a job out of any job-hunting method.

    IMO your first job should be researching and learn how to job-hunt effectively. That's the best paying first job in the world.
     
    #79     Jun 21, 2009
  10. Cutten

    Cutten

    Look at the former communist countries in Eastern Europe. 20 years ago almost everyone was flat broke after the revolution. Now some are billionaires, some are rich, some comfortable, others get by, whereas others are still flat broke. For anyone 38 or older, they faced exactly the same system and all started broke.

    Some people got rich in the Great Depression. The main determinant is yourself, even though environment has an influence.
     
    #80     Jun 21, 2009