Message to rich people, here is what even you don't get

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Unit001, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Man who pissed in your Cheerios? Well apparantly employers do care where 75% of 2009 graduates went to college, because that’s how many don’t have a job yet. I wonder if I go to college and become part of that 75%, is TraderAntiChrist over there gonna rip me a new asshole when I can’t pay back the student loans?
     
    #61     Jun 13, 2009
  2. OK what's the catch? This can't be for real. Are you comedy writers?
     
    #62     Jun 13, 2009
  3. Sandy just keep trying to plug away, you're still young and have
    alot of chance for opportunity to come along for you. As for these mutants who stereotype people who work instead of hit computer keys and rely on weak hands and greater fool theories
    just ignore them, they've been listening to Limbaugh too long.
    The voting public finally is catching on to the expense account and bonus paid classes where they lay off people and double the workload on the rest and reap the bonuses; thats the real world Limbaugh never experienced ..demimonde. Noone wants to work, look around, people do everything in their power to avoid it. Its gotten to where the less what you do resembles "Work" and you tell others to do it the higher your income and vice versa. Someone will come along and tell us their life story of how they toiled to get where they are, shut up. The news of the disparity of income distribution apparantly doesn't get aired on the Fox news. All I'm saying is, it'll never get easier because the
    mutants soak up the opportunities too. So get out there and get 3 jobs and instead of moving with that Uhaul, live in it and save every penny, eat grass and someday you'll get to where you can
    reap commissions from the work your staff does too.
     
    #63     Jun 13, 2009
  4. There is no such thing as a job Americans won’t do. There are however employers who won’t pay an honest days wage for an honest days work and import immigrants here so they can get it done cheaper. Do you really think that the farmers in Florida would have no one to pick the oranges if there weren’t any Hispanics? Yea they’d just let them rot on the trees because no one would want to pick them. I went to a city about 20 minutes from my house a few weeks ago. It is an older town with a lot of older people that have lived there for many years. I went to a local sub/pizza chain there because the one by my house closed down. I was surprised to see three 17 or 18 year old white girls working the cash registers. And they were pretty nice and seemed happy to be there. I looked in the back and the cook was a white guy. Then the manager came out and he was an older white guy. I thought this was odd because aren’t those jobs that Americans won’t do because they are too lazy?

    This is my opinion and it is two fold. At one of the pizza places I used to work at, there was an Hispanic assistant manager there. We worked together for about a year and for the most part, got along fine. Although she always showed a bias to the other Hispanic drivers and customers. Like for instance, she started cracking down on coupons and would ask for them when the customers came in, which is not usually the norm for pizza places. So white people would come in and didn’t have the coupon and she would charge them full price. One day an Hispanic man came in and I got the pizza and gave it to him and saw which coupon he used. When she rang him up, although they were talking in Spanish, I could tell she was asking him for the coupon. He shook his ahead and I guess gestured that it was at home. She kind of hesitated a minute and then abtrubtly said well just bring it next time and gave him the discounted price. When he left I said something like, “oh well I guess if you’re Hispanic, you don’t need the coupon, only white and black people do.” She just walked away.

    Later, she became the store manager, and immediately started acting different to me. I would be busy all night doing my regular duties, and then she’d make me scrub the floor after everybody else left, meanwhile the Hispanic cooks had nothing to do half the time and sat on their butt. I sucked it in because I was making good money at the time. But then she starts asking me which days I want to give up to make room for the new drivers. I said I didn’t want to give up any and asked why she would hire new people when there are already enough good people working there. (And I can outdrive anybody there, without even speeding.) Anyways I gave up one shift and of course 3 days later 2 new Hispanic drivers are working there. So after awhile you kind of get the point. They’re going to push you out one way or another. You don’t fit in there. Then pretty soon they take over and only hire their own. Not all are like that however. I have had many good Hispanic friends that I’ve worked with.

    The second side as to why Americans don’t work low end jobs is because we have been told not to. We look down at people who work at McDonald’s. So when they try to get a better job, we assume that there is a bad reason that they are working there, and thus are not given the same consideration. We have been ingrained to go to college or whatever and get a good job. So when people graduate, they naturally demand that they be given a good high paying job because of the work that they have put in. Low end jobs are beneath them because after all they are eduacted or whatever.

    This also goes for those looking for new jobs. Take for instance somebody who gets laid off or whatever. He starts looking for an equivalent job, but after 6 months, hasn’t gotten anything. So he goes and works a low end job or delivers pizza just so he can have a job and make a little money. He keeps sending out resumes and eventually gets an interview. The employer is impressed by him and understands why he’s been out of work. They are about to offer him a job when they ask him what he’s been doing while unemployed. He confesses that after 6 months of looking, he went and delivered some pizza’s just to make some money. Now do you think that person is going to now be given the same consideration as another person sitting at home collecting unemployment? After all at least being unemployed nowadays is respected. You can just say that you’ve looked everywhere and haven’t gotten a job and everybody feels sorry for you. But a guy that works a low end job just to have one in the meantime, well there must be a bad reason he’s working a job like that. Just my opinion anyways.
    Ok that really doesn’t make sense, if you ask me. First off, how is inflating the workforce with foreign labor going to fix the overall problem? Even if your idea worked, all it would do is extend the ponzi scheme that is Social Security.

    The problem is that not enough is being paid in. So how does bringing more people here solve that problem? All that does is create more competition and lower the wages people are making, which also creates less incentive for people to work anyways. If you want to mess with the free market like that, why don’t we vastly limit the imports from China? If we do that, all that money going over there, will create jobs here. Then people have more jobs and pay more into the system. The 2008 trade deficit with China was 100 billion. If that money were here and SS got 15%, that’s 15 billion extra a year. The other 85 will also filter in as it is spent and other people make money from it. I don’t know if that’s the way you calculate it right, but it’s gotta make a difference. Also if we stop all the foreign wars and policing the world, we could save billions, which could be used to pay for present and future debts. Just a thought.

    Oh and Alan Keyes and Ron Paul don’t belong in the same sentence. Ron Paul is a revolutionary, while Keyes is literally the most annoying person in the world.
     
    #64     Jun 13, 2009
  5. volente_00

    volente_00



    Open your ears Stefan, and your mind will follow. It all starts with making the first step towards changing your current situation.
     
    #65     Jun 14, 2009
  6. For him it is far more easier to call me an "idiot" rather than considering that he is actually the biggest "factor" and "variable" in his life. :)
     
    #66     Jun 14, 2009
  7. Thanks for that. Although I think they have switched to Hannity. He scares me at how biased he is. He sounds just like these people here reading from a Republican handbook with all these one liners like, “live within your means” but can’t answer a simple question like, what is your plan to stop health insurance from going up 15% a year? “Oppose Obama’s plan” is not a valid answer.

    I always thought it was funny that they say Fox is right wing. How can it be right wing and “fair and balanced”?

    Oh and I’m a Republican, at least for now.
     
    #67     Jun 14, 2009
  8. Look I know you’re not going to understand this, and frankly I don’t care. Do you really think that I sit on my butt all day and deliver pizza and think I’m going to get rich? Please point to one of my posts that says I deserve a nice life doing that. I have been trading since I was 17 and have lost probably around 25k doing that. I started a small vending machine company and probably lost about 10k doing that. Then I started a store in the local mall and lost about 20k doing that. But you see, I don’t have another 20k to throw around to go to college or do whatever. I have to regroup a little. The days of working a simple job and being able to keep your expenses low and save money are gone now. You think I’ve never taken steps to improve my situation? That’s all I’ve been doing for the past 7 years.
     
    #68     Jun 14, 2009
  9. There is actually a secret to running a successful vending machine company and thats "never buy new machines!" There is so much marketing to sucker people into buying 5,000 dollar machines its sickening. The trick is that you buy placed machines for no more than 30% of their yearly gross. And you find these people by placing an "i buy vending machines" ad in the newspaper. So if someone is selling 50 bucks per week in candy, you buy their machine for 750 dollars max. (and never buy the gumball machines...you only make like 100 bucks a year with those if you are lucky) The people selling complain because they paid so much for them, but people will sell for cheap if they are sick of the business not making them as much as they thought. Also you should never buy non-placed machines for more than 200 dollars (Im talking about the big soda machines and candy machines) And also you gotta be a good salesman because you should never pay to have your machines placed.

    I did a lot of research into that because i was planning to do a vending business once. The real money though is in buying the machines, placing them and getting a route together, then selling it to someone that basically just thought vending sounds like an easy way to make money and be your own boss. Thats why you see these people selling 5 machine vending routes for like 15 or 20k when in reality they just paid no more than 2k for all the machines and then they make 13-18k for selling it to other people that didnt do their research.
     
    #69     Jun 14, 2009
  10. dcvtss

    dcvtss

    Okay this post has me a little confused, at the end you say you can't work a simple job and keep your expenses low, but that is exactly what you had done and had saved 55 thousand dollars. You started a few businesses that failed (trading is a business) - well most businesses fail. Maybe you should consider that being a business owner is not for you and try to find something that you enjoy or at least don't hate that pays reasonably well and be an employee. Maybe get the hell out of Montgomery County, the cost of living of this entire area is distorted by Uncle Sugar's influence.

    You keep mentioning health insurance; I think you posted a statement on some other thread that showed a bill well over 200 dollars a month. Unless you have some sort of chronic condition there is no way you need to pay that much a month. You are 25 years old, get a high deductible plan, I've seen plans for $80 a month on ehealthinsurance that include prescription coverage.
     
    #70     Jun 14, 2009