Mental Ceilings and self fulfilling prophesies

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Girlpower, Aug 2, 2003.

  1. Enjoy yourself! :) :p
     
    #301     Aug 16, 2003
  2. We are not talking about a mere one day, dude... we are talking long run averages... try and comprehend the mathematical implications of your 4-6 points per day per contract as a long run average, or forever be stuck in a delusional world...
     
    #302     Aug 16, 2003
  3. Hi Candle

    Please clarify below, as I am confused as well.

    If a trader keeps using one unit of contarct in and out many times (say 10 times), (not Bruce' case since he sometimes has 2 contrcats outstanding) whether he's got 8 points per day.

    Or the trader has got just 0.8 points per day.

    (Assuming the trader can repeatedly attain the same performance for many years)

    :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
    #303     Aug 16, 2003
  4. Candletrader,
    As i see it with my limited expirience of this business
    you shouldhave the following:

    1. A technical plan for your trading.

    2. A mentality plan for ýour trading.

    3. A moneymanagement plan for your trading.

    4. A follow up plan of your trades where you analyze
    your executed trades.

    But if no. 1 is bad it`s not a good start.
     
    #304     Aug 16, 2003
  5. #305     Aug 16, 2003
  6. Sorry Bruce, I've just found out you use two contracts a few times.

    I'm too tire now. Better go to bed. :(
     
    #306     Aug 16, 2003
  7. I did check the link before, but didn't understand the link was catered for me at that moment. :mad:

    Many thansk to MarketSurfer, anyway! :mad:
     
    #307     Aug 16, 2003
  8. No, you're confusing that day's performance with my average over those 9 days. That day after expenses and losses amounted to $384.80. Divide that by $50 and you get a little over 7.5 pts.

    Somewhere in this thread I posted Vic Niederhoffer's estimate of his own success: roughly two million contracts traded during 15 years and a profit of $70 per contract. Keep in mind he was trading full-size contracts...if you just assume the big S&P's at that time (he traded lots of bonds, too) were $500 a point and then just $250 a point you can see how incredibly hard it is to trade profitably. On those 196 trades I averaged $13.99 per trade.

    Looking back at my data, commissions are my biggest obstacle. That and staying away from trading when I'm not in sync with the market.

    Bruce
     
    #308     Aug 16, 2003
  9. We also need a plans plan to produce the above plans, and then another planning plan for plannning this planning plan.

    :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
    #309     Aug 16, 2003
  10. Generally I`m not an organised person(unfortunately),
    but I have rather fast learned if you want t o succeed in this
    business you have to learn and apply some rules.
    But don´t overdo it,no plan is over 3/4 of page.
     
    #310     Aug 16, 2003