Memorable Quotes and Advice

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Datradr, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. BMA895

    BMA895

    the mistake 99% of traders make is thinking about money at all. money and P&L is an incredibly emotional subject. the objective in trading is to remain unemotional as only then can one make rational decisions. I spent many years in both the chicago pits and on the screen and there was a single ability that the handful of guys that were truly great possessed and that was the ability to take a loser and be unaffected emotionally. I can't tell you how many guys I knew including established traders that would have a loser and for whatever reason (money, ego) be unable emotionally to cut it loose. when that happens not only is one turning a manageable loser into a P&L disaster/potential blowup but also missing out on the opportunity of the next trade. mastering the skill of being unemotional took my trading to a completely different level. I'll leave you with this thought - THE BEST TRADES I HAVE EVER MADE AS A TRADER WERE LOSERS.
     
    #11     Sep 16, 2021
    Van_der_Voort_4 likes this.
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    That statement is illogical. Although I get where you are coming from as if a losing trade teaches a life lesson. Let's not have too many of them though, yes?
     
    #12     Sep 16, 2021
  3. BMA895

    BMA895

    it's not about learning some sort of life lesson it's about survival and developing the proper mentality to become a successful trader. any idiot can cash in a winning trade but it takes a real trader to own a loser and move on before getting crippled.
     
    #13     Sep 16, 2021
  4. This is a vital skill. The ability to kill a trade at a moment's notice, without your mind racing in a million directions.

    The moment that trade crosses a certain boundary...kill it. Don't sit there and begin praying to God it will reverse in your favor.

    Prior to this setup and approach...it helps greatly to establish a fair set of assumptions and expectations on how you think the future graph will look like.
    Know how the rabbit will move. Don't chase it blindly from behind.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2021
    #14     Sep 16, 2021
    oraclewizard77 likes this.
  5. BMA895

    BMA895

    almost always a market will give a brief opportunity to take a loss before everyone else realizes what's happening and things get ugly. are you capable of taking that opportunity without hesitation? that is the difference between the greats and the wannabes.
     
    #15     Sep 16, 2021
  6. BMA895

    BMA895

    there was a saying on the floor "you're either the first rat off the ship or the last." there is no middle ground. being the first rat off is a lot harder than it sounds.
     
    #16     Sep 16, 2021
  7. Open the Door, get on the Floor....Everybody walk the dinosaur"
     
    #17     Sep 16, 2021
  8. deaddog

    deaddog

    Couldn't agree more!!

    A loss should just be a good trade with a bad outcome.
     
    #18     Sep 16, 2021
  9. BMA895

    BMA895

    what I am trying to say is don't think of it as a bad outcome. as soon as a trader starts thinking "bad outcome" the negative connotations of that statement carry baggage and make unemotionally pitching a trade that much more difficult. the way I looked at it is if I rationally took a manageable loss that was otherwise 30 seconds away from being a disaster and reversed to capitalize on the move then I was doing exactly what I was supposed to be doing as a professional trader. there is nothing more important in trading then managing one's emotions.
     
    #19     Sep 16, 2021
  10. deaddog

    deaddog

    What do you think of it as? You took a trade and preserved your capital by taking a loss then moved on to the next trade. You followed your plan yet you lost the amount you had planned on.
    I try not to think of the money. I measure my performance by whether I followed my plan. Each trade has an outcome. Some good some not so good. I attempt to make only good trades regardless of the outcome.
     
    #20     Sep 17, 2021