Memo looks like a nothing burger... Read it here

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Feb 2, 2018.

  1. At great cost to the country.

    The people entrusted great powers to intel agencies and it resulted in an abuse of power and attempt to disempower a duly elected president or to impede his rise to power- all while furthering their preferred candidate by looking the other way.

    The agencies argue for more secrecy in protecting themselves against charges that they abused their special power and authority in secrecy. I have no sympathy.

    If it gets messy, they can appoint a special counsel, but they are not allowed to say FU to their oversight committees. That has clearly blown up on them. If they want out, let us know and we can bring someone in who has not worked for the fbi to look at it. Otherwise. Put it all out there.

    Also, no one, either dem or repub, said that there were any national security risks in that memo. There were risks to the reputations of justice department people so they hid behind the national security claim. Just another sign that a cover-up is in progress.
     
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    #151     Feb 4, 2018
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  2. jem

    jem

    I have read a lot of lefties pretending they know there was more substance in the FBI's FISA application. I think we should see that application.

    I would like to know if there was this kind of substance in the application.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/39886/high-bar-fisa-warrant-monitor-carter-page/


    The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) allows the FBI to get a warrant from a secret court, known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), to conduct electronic surveillance on U.S. persons if they can show probable cause that the target is an “agent of a foreign power” who is “knowingly engag[ing]…in clandestine intelligence activities.” In other words, the government has to show that the target might be spying for a foreign government or organization.
     
    #152     Feb 4, 2018
  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    Substantially relied on for what? Don’t forget we are only talking about Carter Page here.

    And, yes, the McCabe statement is a paraphrase. There are other direct quotes in the Nunes memo. Why wasn’t the McCabe statement an exact quote?
     
    #153     Feb 4, 2018
  4. elderado

    elderado

    Would someone else help this poor soul understand that his reporting is not corroborated by the Associated Press?

    Lawdy.
     
    #154     Feb 4, 2018
  5. Sorry. Not going to work with me.

    Or the committee.
     
    #155     Feb 4, 2018
  6. Tom B

    Tom B

    You are a racist/ race baiter. This is an indisputable fact.
     
    #156     Feb 4, 2018

  7. You tell me. or have your buddies include it in the dem memo. I thought I covered that in an earlier post. McCabe testified at length and I am sure there are hundreds of other things that could have been included. The dems should put whatever helps them in there, and the repubs should give their rebuttal. We can televise the McCabe testimony or have pay to view tv or anything you or they want when these witnesses appear before the committee again.

    Keep one other little factoid in mind as you are getting your hopes up: Christopher Wray read Nunes memo on Sunday. Then he fired McCabe from his position first thing Monday morning. Never a good sign. Maybe if he had read the transcript it would have saved McCabe, or maybe the problem is that he did read the transcript. Let your dem buddies put their defense together. I will read it.
     
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    #157     Feb 4, 2018
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Little Adam Schiff, who is desperate to run for higher office, is one of the biggest liars and leakers in Washington, right up there with Comey, Warner, Brennan and Clapper! Adam leaves closed committee hearings to illegally leak confidential information. Must be stopped!

    __Trump on Democrat counter memo
     
    #158     Feb 5, 2018
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  9. What thinking adult talks like this, and in public at that? There is little wonder why the thug contingent is drawn to him. He is a hate group of one.

    I'm not so good at calling turns. Has the downward spiral begun? Is it underway? I only know it is inevitable. I really cannot see this guy making it to the end of his term.
     
    #159     Feb 5, 2018
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Would agree that Trump's tweets and commentary are so very juvenile as to elicit disgust every time I read them. Doesn't take away from the fact that Schiff is, if leaking information, a criminal. And then there is this stupidity from "Little Adam"...

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    Schiff's Latest Bizarre Claim: Russian Ads Promote 2nd Amendment "So We All Kill Each Other"

    California Congressman Adam Schiff now says that Russian ads aimed at pushing Americans to kill each other...

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    The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms... and, as The Duran's Alex Christoforou writes, according to California Congressman Adam Schiff, those pesky Russians are using bots to promote the second amendment with an ultimate goal of having Americans ‘kill each other.’

    Once again, another brilliant plan hatched by Putin... good thing Schiff caught on to it and can now begin seizing American’s guns so as to thwart Russia’s evil plan.

    On Thursday Democrat Schiff spoke to a crowd at the University of Pennsylvania, where the TDS – ‘Russia hysteria virus’ infected Schiff told the crowd Russian ads promoted the Second Amendment during the 2016 election “so we will kill each other.”




    NTK Network reports...

    Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) said Thursday that Russia promoted content that supported the Second Amendment on social media during the 2016 election because they wanted Americans to kill one another.

    “You had the content that was clearly anti-Hillary, and you had the content that was very pro-Trump. But even the bigger quantity of content that was being pushed through social media was just content designed to pit us against each other,” Schiff said while speaking at the University of Pennsylvania.​

    Which is false!

    Facebook executive Colin Stretch told the US Senate Judiciary Committee in November that the total number of those illegitimate ads are a drop in the ocean — less than 0.004 percent of all content — or about 1 in 23,000 news feed items.

    Russia didn’t flip the election.

    And then Schiff exclaimed:

    They also trumpeted the Second Amendment. Apparently Russians are very big fans of our Second Amendment. They don’t particularly want a Second Amendment of their own, but they’re really glad that we have one."​

    “The Russians would be thrilled if we were doing nothing but killing each other every day, and sadly we are.”

    Mr. Schiff's constant delusional comments are so irrelevant to most Americans - and so unbelievable to many - that it should be no surprise to anyone that The Democrats favorability is sliding and Trump's is rising. But it certainly seems to have shocked Brookings' Benjamin Wittes: "Almost unfathomably, both Trump’s and the congressional Republicans’ position in polls seems to be improving."



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    Will The Democrats never learn?
     
    #160     Feb 5, 2018