Meet the Covid variants

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Sep 23, 2021.

  1. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Zoonosis is more common than you think. Simply, just because vaccine mandates and restrictions are being removed...

    Covid and its Variants of Concern will still be here but we need to learn to live with it. More importantly, we'll most likely see another Pandemic (although it may not involve Covid) in our lifetime.

    Variants of Concern will be an issue for many more years because most of the low-income countries have less than 10% of their citizens vaccinated and even more that still believe Covid is not a threat.

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    Zoonotic diseases are very common, both in the United States and around the world.

    Scientists estimate that more than 6 out of every 10 known infectious diseases in people can be spread from animals, and 3 out of every 4 new or emerging infectious diseases in people come from animals.

    Emerging and endemic zoonotic diseases pose a threat not only to the health of animals and humans but also to global health security. An estimated 60% of known infectious diseases and up to 75% of new or emerging infectious diseases are zoonotic in origin (1,2).

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5711306/

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    Last edited: Mar 8, 2022
    #211     Mar 8, 2022
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Few, if any, folks died of Kung Flu in my view. Rather, they had other conditions and died with Kung Flu.
     
    #212     Mar 8, 2022
  3. In all fairness, I have talked with a lot of credible people who knew someone of working age dying or suffering serious long term harm as a result of a Covid infection.

    While optimal Covid policy is difficult to determine, it seems reasonable that all of us should be willing to make some sort of concession, such as getting vaccinated, wearing masks in public, or avoiding large crowds, during times of potentially high transmission risks.
     
    #213     Mar 9, 2022
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  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    It would be both smarter and easier to just get vaccinated. If you don't, you share with all the other unvaccinated people responsibility for these new variants.
     
    #214     Mar 9, 2022
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    No No No. Your contentions describe an intrusion on liberty.
     
    #215     Mar 9, 2022
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Nobody can call what we did in the U.S. for Covid policy a success. In fact it is the top failure in the first-nation world. The U.S has the highest number of Covid deaths. plus the highest Covid death rate among first world nations. This can hardly be called a success.
     
    #216     Mar 9, 2022
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Assuming, of course, that what we call a COVID death is the same thing as other nations called a COVID death.

    And then there's that whole pesky "its also about the livelihood of the living and the freedoms of those others" and the different policy the US states had vs. other countries on freedom.
     
    #217     Mar 9, 2022
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yeah... whatever... there's so much "economic freedom" in being dead of Covid due to poor public health policy in a pandemic.

    And Covid deaths across first world nations are basically counted the same -- the typical Covid-denier line that the "U.S. counts differently" is crap. The reality is that Covid deaths are unreported -- and a true accounting in the future will increase the number. The U.S. had a significant number of excess deaths over the past two years and due to Covid our average life expectancy dropped by two years (a larger drop than our war time periods).
     
    #218     Mar 9, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    ‘Deltacron’: New Covid hybrid variant confirmed for the first time, but we don’t need to be too concerned
    The strain is a combination of Delta and Omicron variants, and is being tracked by the World Health Organisation
    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/d...ed-dont-need-concerned-1506717?ito=smart-news

    Scientists have for the first time provided solid evidence of a covid strain that combines Delta and Omicron variants – but do not believe it poses a cause for concern.

    While the so-called “Deltacron” variant had been suspected in a number of countries, virologists at L’Institut Pasteur in Paris submitted its full genomic sequence on Tuesday to the international covid database, GISAID, meaning it has been officially confirmed as a variant.

    A case of Deltacron has been found in Soissons, northern France, and more are suspected in Denmark and the Netherlands.

    Last month, the UK Health Security Agency classed the Delta x Omicron “recombinant” virus as a “signal under investigation” after suspected cases in the UK, but these have not yet been confirmed.

    Signal under investigation is two levels below a variant of concern.

    The prospect of a variant combining two of the most potent versions of coronavirus of the pandemic so far may sound scary, particularly because Delta was more severe than other variants and Omicron was highly infectious.

    But scientists stress that there is now substantial immunity in the human population against both variants, so there is no reason to think this will pose a danger to vaccines.

    What’s more, the case in Soissons has been traced back to January, meaning it would have taken off by now if it had any real advantage in a population – in the way Omicron did in November and December.

    According to analysis of Deltacron’s genetic code, its “backbone” is derived from the Delta variant while its spike – the part of the virus that attaches itself to human cells – is from Omicron.

    Recombinant viruses emerge when a patient is infected with two variants at the same time, and the combination occurs when its cells replicate together.

    Sources at the UKHSA say the Delta x Omicron variant is not linked to the rise in cases and hospital admissions in the UK over the past week.

    Maria van Kerkhove, the Covid technical lead for the World Health Organisation, tweeted that recombinants were “to be expected, especially with intense circulation of Omicron & Delta” and that her team were “tracking and discussing” the variant.

    Dr Soumya Swaminathan, chief scientist at the WHO, tweeted: “We have known that recombinant events can occur, in humans or animals, with multiple circulating variants of #SARSCoV2. need to wait for experiments to determine the properties of this virus. Importance of sequencing, analytics & rapid data sharing as we deal with this pandemic.”
     
    #219     Mar 9, 2022
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    'Research' is what anti-vaxxers do. From performing their own experiments on Facebook, to double blind studies on Parler, to analyzing peer-reviewed Youtube documentaries by such prolific users as TigBittyBongos69. I.e., believing anything someone on the Internet tells you to except the people who are experts in their field....
     
    #220     Mar 9, 2022
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