Meet the COVID Delta variant

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jun 23, 2021.

  1. jem

    jem


    Imagine how much they will be charging you all with your compromised immune systems per month for your booster shots through the covid exchanges. Those paying taxes will be paying as if you had kids in college...internet trolls with no assets or income will be cheering it on. They will try and force us all in...this is setting the table.
     
    #561     Aug 17, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    What the new vaccine data does and doesn't tell us
    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vaccine-data-cdc-biden-d6f295f2-5205-4c44-bdf3-f7eab66b4873.html

    The new coronavirus vaccine data released yesterday by the CDC confirms what other recent research has been saying: The coronavirus vaccines' effectiveness against infection has decreased over time.

    Between the lines: There's little to no data that the vaccines' effectiveness against hospitalization will eventually follow suit.
    Driving the news: The CDC released three new studies focusing on the vaccines' effectiveness, particularly in light of the Delta variant.
    • One looked at Pfizer and Moderna's effectiveness against infections among nursing home residents over time, and found that it dropped from 75% pre-Delta to 53% when Delta became dominant. It didn't differentiate between asymptomatic, symptomatic and severe infections.
    • Another used data from 21 hospitals to estimate the mRNA vaccines' effectiveness against hospitalization over time, and found there was no significant change in effectiveness from mid-March to mid-July.
    • The third, using New York state data, found that all three vaccines' effectiveness against infection dropped from 92% in early May to 80% at the end of July, but the effectiveness against hospitalization remained relatively stable.
    Reality check: This is all good news for most vaccinated people — your vaccines will keep you alive and out of the hospital.
    • It's not so great for some vulnerable populations, particularly nursing home residents, who may be less protected than they'd thought.
    • "Additional evaluations are needed to understand whether protection against severe disease in nursing home residents is also declining over time," the nursing home study warns.
    • Residents' risk level is compounded by the high rate of unvaccinated nursing home employees.
    Be smart: The Biden administration's worst nightmare is finding out about declining effectiveness by a spike in real-world death rates in a few months. They've instead decided to get ahead of the virus by boosting most people's level of protection, starting with the most vulnerable.

    What we're watching: Recent Israeli data suggests that vaccine effectiveness against severe disease has fallen over time among adults 65 and older who haven't received a booster shot.
    • We need way more data to know if the trend is real. It's still entirely possible the vaccines remain effective against severe disease well into the future — at least for the younger population — meaning the U.S. jumped the gun on extra shots.
    • But if it is an accurate foreshadowing of how the vaccines will work in the U.S., the Biden administration's decision will likely save American lives — which is the ultimate point of the booster decision.
     
    #562     Aug 19, 2021
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I think they should wait until next summer to announce such for next fall...

    We'll have fewer Covid deniers, fewer Delta Variant deniers, fewer face mask deniers, and fewer anti-vax people.

    By the way, it's estimated that about 2 million additional people on top of the immunocompromise people have now gotten their booster shots via a private Doctor.

    It's messy now...now imagine what it's going to be like when another Variant of Concern is born. :(

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    #563     Aug 19, 2021
  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    I read somewhere that viruses eventually reach something like peak evolution and settle down in mutating because a variant has become ultra successful it crowds out the other variants. This delta variant spreads at an incredible rate. The next variant would have to have a significant increase in contagiousness to overtake delta.
     
    #564     Aug 19, 2021
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  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    They typically reach peak evolution after about 5 - 6 Variants of Concern and such can take several years.

    Right now, we're sitting on 4 Variants of Concern. Thus, 1 - 2 more to go before Immunologists, Virologists, Infection Disease professionals can begin to relax.

    Reminder, a lot of people (not scientists) were calling an end to Covid by school start (August - September) of 2020 and then three more Variants of Concern showed up in September (United Kingdom), October (India), November (Brazil) within the first year of the Pandemic after the May (South Africa) variant.
    • Ironically, a lot of the misinformation / disinformation about Covid, Vaccines, Therapuetic Drugs originated in the above countries prior to spreading to the United States.
    This Covid is doing things that are causing many science school books to be rewritten or revised. I truly hope no more Variants of Concern are born but Covid so far has been saying "fuck you all for your ignorance".

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    #565     Aug 19, 2021
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    We will see how this prediction holds up...

    The delta variant will slow but not derail the ongoing economic recovery
    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance...t-not-derail-the-ongoing-us-economic-recovery

    Investors and economists are growing concerned about the potential impact of the highly transmissible delta variant of COVID-19. The recent drop in retail sales, decline in consumer confidence and heightened market volatility suggest a slackening in the pace of the U.S. economic recovery. Previously rosy projections of GDP growth during the third quarter of 2021 will need to be reconsidered in light of recent developments.

    Despite growing downside risks, the likelihood of a return to lockdowns (which could derail the U.S. economic recovery) is quite small. Once the virus spread peaks in the next few weeks and then gradually abates, it is likely that the economy will regain its momentum and some of the activity that was slated to take place in the third quarter will end up being shifted to the fourth quarter, thus boosting year-end growth.

    Even as vaccines exhibit reduced efficacy against the delta variant, and despite a general waning in vaccine effectiveness over time, it is critical to note that they are still able to lower the odds of hospitalization, prevent serious illness and dramatically reduce mortality risks. Fear of the delta variant has boosted vaccination rates of late. The Biden administration’s push for a booster shot, though controversial, should offer U.S. residents additional protection.

    Furthermore, the overall economic impact of each successive wave of the COVID-19 outbreak has lessened as both employers and workers in the U.S. have learned to adapt to the pandemic. In places like the U.S. and UK, there is a growing realization that we need to learn to live with the coronavirus. The Atlantic’s Sarah Zhang recently observed: “When enough people have gained some immunity through either vaccination or infection – preferably vaccination – the coronavirus will transition to what epidemiologists call ‘endemic.’ It won’t be eliminated, but it won’t upend our lives anymore.”

    Highly accommodative monetary policy and unprecedented levels of fiscal stimulus will continue to support the recovery. It is worth noting that even as the impact of household stimulus checks and enhanced unemployment benefits start to wane, the recently introduced child tax credit program will aid millions of Americans. Passage of the bipartisan infrastructure bill will offer additional economic stimulus. Moreover, state and local governments have yet to deploy a significant fraction of their already allocated federal funds.

    A key driver of economic optimism is the fact that U.S. household consumption is expected to remain robust for the foreseeable future. High levels of saving and elevated real estate and financial asset values imply a healthy household balance sheet. Tight labor market conditions are pushing up nominal wages sharply and providing a boost to low-income households. Surging inflation does pose a threat as it may curtail spending power if real wages decline.

    A notable downside risk is the continuing threat posed by intermittent global supply chain shocks and resultant spikes in inflation. The most important cog in the global manufacturing supply chain – the Asia-Pacific region – continues to struggle with low vaccination rates. East and South East Asia, Australia and New Zealand are overly reliant on a flawed and unrealistic containment strategy that is focused on eliminating the virus (the zero-COVID approach) through the imposition of draconian lockdowns, strict border controls and extreme quarantine measures. Such strategies may have been appropriate in the early days of the pandemic prior to the discovery of effective vaccines. Nowadays, they are not just massively disruptive but also exorbitantly costly.

    The fragility of the global economy was highlighted by the recent partial shutdown of the world’s third busiest port in China (due to a single COVID case) that snarled global supply chains. Semiconductor shortages have already hurt global auto production and led to a dramatic upswing in car prices. The impact of fresh lockdowns in the Asia-Pacific region is going to reverberate throughout the global economy and pose a risk even to the U.S. economy.

    Boosting global vaccination rates is the single most effective policy response to both the health crisis and the economic problems afflicting much of the world. Otherwise, we may be headed for a bifurcated recovery in which Europe and North America continue their ongoing economic resurgence on the back of high levels of vaccination while the rest of the world continues to struggle.

    From a U.S. standpoint, continuing to stick with policies that have outlived their usefulness is another potential risk. Extending enhanced unemployment insurance beyond the September expiration date may further distort the labor market and limit the pace of the economic recovery.

    On the monetary policy front, the continuation of the Federal Reserve’s asset purchase programs is increasingly hard to justify. Boston Fed President Eric Rosengren recently noted that the downside risks associated with the Fed’s quantitative easing measures may now be starting to outweigh any upside benefits.
     
    #566     Aug 24, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Vaccines are less protective against Delta infection but still reduce risk by two-thirds, CDC study shows
    https://www.wral.com/the-us-could-e...gh-people-get-vaccinated-fauci-says/19839957/

    Vaccine effectiveness against Covid-19 infection dropped from 91% to 66% once the Delta variant accounted for the majority of circulating virus, according to a study published Tuesday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    "While we did see a reduction in the protection of the Covid-19 vaccine against the Delta variant, it's still two-thirds reduction of risk," lead author Ashley Fowlkes, an epidemiologist for CDC Covid-19 Emergency Response, told CNN on Tuesday.

    The study is in line with others from the US and around the world showing Delta's increased tendency to cause largely minor infections among fully vaccinated people. Still, the effectiveness of vaccines against severe disease -- including hospitalization and death -- has remained high against all known variants.

    The current study does not cover disease severity, however. Instead, the new paper is the latest chapter in an ongoing study that has been following "health care personnel, first responders, and other essential and frontline workers" who receive weekly PCR tests in eight locations across six US states. The vast majority are vaccinated.

    The study's reliance on regular, weekly testing makes it possible to capture a more complete picture of Covid-19 infections in a group, since people with mild or no symptoms may be less likely to get tested overall. In the official vaccine trials, efficacy was calculated against symptomatic Covid-19 -- not all infections.

    Still, the authors warn there is some uncertainty in these estimates, in part because they found relatively few infections in the first place. During the months when Delta was predominant, researchers found 19 infections among 488 unvaccinated people, and 24 infections among 2,352 fully vaccinated people.

    While waning immunity may also contribute to some degree of reduced protection, the current study was unable to show this to a significant degree. Separate research suggests that even if a fully vaccinated person gets infected with the virus, they may be less likely to spread it. About 51.5% of the population is fully vaccinated, according to data from the CDC.

    The study's authors are planning future analyses comparing the different Covid-19 vaccines as well as the types of symptoms experienced by vaccinated and unvaccinated people who become infected.

    "It's still a very powerful vaccine," Fowlkes added, especially when it comes to more severe outcomes. "But we are also looking towards continuing to use masks for a little bit longer."

    Separately, a new study out of Los Angeles County reaffirms that fully vaccinated people are far less likely than unvaccinated people to be hospitalized, admitted to an intensive care unit, require mechanical ventilation or die from Covid-19.

    "On July 25, infection and hospitalization rates among unvaccinated persons were 4.9 and 29.2 times, respectively, those in fully vaccinated persons," researchers from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health wrote in the study, which was published Tuesday by the CDC.

    Fauci predicts Covid could be 'under control' by spring

    Despite these studies about the benefits of vaccination, tens of millions of people have hesitated to get the shots. Because of that, hospitals in many states with lower vaccination rates are overwhelmed by a surge in patients, students are returning to the classroom only to have to isolate due to exposure and cases among children are on the rise.

    Mississippi reported 111 new Covid-19-related deaths on Tuesday, a one-day record, state epidemiologist Dr. Paul Byers said Tuesday. 87% of new deaths are among the unvaccinated and more than 50% are over the age of 65, he said.

    Florida, too, reported a record high average of about 212 Covid-19 deaths each day last week, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci urged the public to get vaccinated and said if the "overwhelming majority" of the population does so the US could have the pandemic "under control" by spring of 2022.

    "We hope we'll be there ... but there's no guarantee because it's up to us," Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the President's chief medical adviser, told CNN's Anderson Cooper Monday.

    It isn't yet clear to health experts what proportion of the population needs to be vaccinated to reach a level of protection that could sustain a return to normalcy, like safely going to restaurants and theaters, Fauci said. So the best way forward is to vaccinate as many people as possible, he said.

    On Monday, the US Food and Drug Administration granted full approval to the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine for people 16 and older, a move that Fauci said could convince a significant portion of hesitant Americans to get vaccinated.

    Still, Fauci's spring 2022 timeline is daunting politically for President Joe Biden, who already declared partial victory over the virus on July 4. In addition, CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta questioned the definition of what it means to "control" a virus that looks to be here for the long haul.

    "This is one of those situations where I think defining what it means to be in control of the pandemic is really important," Gupta said Tuesday.

    "If we have more people vaccinated, it's likely we will decouple hospitalizations from cases, and maybe that will be a definition of control. (If) people aren't getting that sick anymore, ending up in the hospital, the virus starts to slowly not have places to circulate, that will be a definition of control. I think we're going to see waves of this for some time," he added.

    FDA's approval opens door for mandates

    The FDA's full approval of the Pfizer vaccine could encourage wait-and-see holdouts to get the shots.

    "I do think that the approval the FDA announced yesterday for the Pfizer vaccine is a milestone in our vaccination efforts and it reaffirms what we have been seeing for months," US Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy told CNN. "Which is that the vaccines are highly effective, they've a very strong safety profile and they're what we need to get through this pandemic."

    There are still nearly 80 million people eligible to be vaccinated who have not done so.

    "I do think there will be a modest increase, but, look, we have a long way to go to fill this gap," said Dr. Peter Hotez, vaccinologist and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. "I think having the full approval will certainly convince some, but it's just one of a dozen fake talking points put out there by the disinformation campaign. And, I think a number of people are just going to revert to one of the other ones."

    The thing that may really motivate people to get those life-saving vaccines, Hotez said, is if the authorization paves the way for employers, businesses and schools to mandate vaccinations. Already, some government bodies and schools are beginning to do that.

    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio mandated the vaccine for all Department of Education employees, including teachers, on Monday. In addition, then-New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo released a statement Monday, before he left office, calling for all New York state employers to require Covid-19 vaccination.

    The state already requires all eligible government and health care employees to be vaccinated.

    New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy also announced a vaccine mandate Monday. All state employees, which includes pre-k through 12 schools and public universities, are required to be fully vaccinated by October 18 or be subject to regular testing, Murphy said.

    Many colleges and universities across the country have announced requirements for students in the new school year to be vaccinated, and on Monday the University of Minnesota joined the list, university President Joan Gable and Jakub Tolar, dean of the Medical School, announced in a letter to students, faculty and staff.

    Faculty and staff will be "expected" to attest to their vaccination status starting Tuesday, the letter said.
     
    #567     Aug 24, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    Oh look at the morons trying to get in front of the truth after misrepresenting reality with stale stats for months.

    You vaccine nazis have corrupt souls.
     
    #568     Aug 24, 2021
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    what are you babbling about? Protection against mutations via alpha vax was always a crapshoot
     
    #569     Aug 24, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The Delta variant has peaked in Southern states according to Scott Gottlieb. We will see how this holds up.

    The Delta Variant Just Peaked in These States, Virus Expert Says
    If you live here, you may already be past the worst of the surge.
    https://bestlifeonline.com/delta-peaked-south-news/
     
    #570     Aug 25, 2021