Meet the COVID Delta variant

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jun 23, 2021.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Only if you already had it.I have not gotten the vax because I had it.I am sure I have touched or inhaled the virus many times since than and I didn't catch it again,same with around 50 people I personally know or know of who had it and never got it again.

    If I never had it I would take the vax.
     
    #31     Jun 24, 2021
  2. Have people become immune to colds or the flu?

    There are four major Covid variants since Covid-Sars2 (Wuhan) hit the scene 18 months ago, itself a variant. So the average time for a new variant is 4.5 months and the vaccine for Covid-Sar2 took 12 months to develop. Like with influenza vaccines, we are always trying to play catch up and even then it has been a guess which flu variant to develop a vaccine for.

    With flu season starting in the US, say September, we will see how effective the current vaccine is and how well the previously infected do after reinfection. I would not be too optimistic as micro hemorrhages and lung scaring seen in many Covid patients represent permanent damage and each Covid infection likely has cumulative effects for them. Further, how well someone can fight off an infection can vary over a given period of time, making the outcome of any Covid infection a roll of the dice. As we get older, 40s, 50s, 60s, we are more likely to have severe Covid outcomes. In the US, 20% of the population are estimated to have been infected with Covid, or about 70,000,000. About 500,000 died and about 9,000,000 had serious complications, raising scary long term questions as Covid has annual seasonal surges. We can’t take having 3% of our population fucked up each year for long. Covid statistics for next season should show us where we are at.

    The Covid virus itself is not our only challenge. It is how our politicians and population react to potential future waves of infections which can have severe economic and social impacts beyond the infection itself.

    Anyone up for learning how to properly use PPE and follow best anti-infection practices, yet?
     
    #32     Jun 24, 2021
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm old enough to remember when GWB was telling us about the dreaded "B117" or whatever variant. How'd that turn out, GWB? Right, thought so.

    Now its the Delta variant. What a load of piss.

     
    #33     Jun 24, 2021
  4. What is not a load of piss is my roommate says that four co-workers of his, all air cargo handlers at DFW, died of Covid. He had a somewhat bad case of Covid himself, Not too far away, the founder of Texas Roadhouse restaurant killed himself because of Covid complications:

    Texas Roadhouse Founder Kent Taylor Dies After Struggle With 'Post-COVID' Symptoms

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    March 22, 20211:51 PM ET
    RACHEL TREISMAN

    Texas Roadhouse founder and CEO Kent Taylor died by suicide last week after experiencing symptoms related to COVID-19, including severe tinnitus. The restaurant chain he launched in 1993 now has more than 600 locations across the United States.

    Ron Bath/Texas Roadhouse via AP

    Texas Roadhouse restaurant founder and CEO Kent Taylor died by suicide last week at age 65 after what his family described as a "battle with post-Covid related symptoms, including severe tinnitus."

    He is being remembered by his family, the Louisville-based company and Kentucky leaders as an industry legend who put people first, growing the restaurant chain to more than 600 domestic locations in nearly three decades and paying it forward through philanthropic contributions along the way.

    "Kent leaves an unmatched legacy as a people-first leader, which is why he often said that Texas Roadhouse was a people company that just happened to serve steaks," his family and company said in a joint statement. "He changed the lives of hundreds of millions of employees and guests over the past 28 years. He also impacted hundreds of thousands of people through his generous and often anonymous donations."

    It is not clear when Taylor was diagnosed with COVID-19. The statement says that he "battled and fought hard like the former track champion that he was, but the suffering that greatly intensified in recent days became unbearable."

    In "true Kent fashion," the statement noted, he still managed to give back to others — in this case, by committing to fund a clinical study to help members of the military experiencing tinnitus, a condition that involves ringing in the ears and has been linked to COVID-19 in recent research.

    As the coronavirus pandemic took hold last March, Taylor chose to forgo his base salary and incentive bonus for the year in order to financially support front-line hourly restaurant employees.

    That act was "no surprise to anyone who knew Kent and his strong belief in servant leadership," the company's board of directors said in a statement announcing his death.

    "His entrepreneurial spirit will live on in the company he built, the projects he supported and the lives he touched," the board added.

    Company lore has it that Taylor was turned down more than 80 times while trying to raise money to make his dream of an "affordable Texas-style restaurant with Hand-Cut Steaks, Fall-Off-The-Bone Ribs, and Ice-Cold Beer" a reality — and once tried unsuccessfully to chase down basketball legend Larry Bird in an airport to pitch him.

    After three doctors in Elizabethtown, Ky., eventually agreed to provide the necessary startup capital, Taylor famously sketched out the restaurant's design on a cocktail napkin and launched the first Texas Roadhouse in Clarksville, Ind., in 1993. The chain's early history was one of stops and starts, as three of its first five restaurants failed, providing what the company described as "some very valuable (and expensive) lessons."

    The chain has since grown to include 611 domestic locations in 49 states and 28 international locations in 10 foreign countries, according to a company fact sheet.

    We will miss you, Kent. Because of you and your dream of Texas Roadhouse, we get to say we ❤ our jobs every day. #WeLoveYouKent #TXRHFamily #RoadhouseStrong pic.twitter.com/GZEkUJspoA
    — Texas Roadhouse (@texasroadhouse) March 19, 2021

    Louisville Mayor Greg Fischer mourned Taylor as a "much loved and one-of-a-kind citizen" in a series of tweets.

    "Kent's kind and generous spirit was his constant driving force whether it was quietly helping a friend or building one of America's great companies in [Texas Roadhouse]," Fischer wrote. "He was a maverick entrepreneur who embodied the values of never giving up and putting others first."

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., released a statement praising Taylor's creativity, grit and habit of taking bold risks, noting that he "gladly shared the results" whenever they paid off. He noted that Taylor mentored budding entrepreneurs and quietly and generously supported numerous causes, including veterans, the Special Olympics and local law enforcement.

    "He did it to help worthy causes, not garner his own praise," McConnell said.

    Jerry Morgan — a 23-year veteran of Texas Roadhouse who most recently served as its president — was immediately appointed to the role of CEO as part of a company succession plan.

    The board of directors said Morgan's operational background and long history with the chain will play a key role in "helping the Company and Roadies move forward after such a tragic loss."

    In addition, experts worry about the pandemic's toll on mental health, substance use and suicidal ideation. Research published in November, for example, found that nearly 1 in 5 people diagnosed with COVID-19 was also diagnosed within three months with a psychiatric disorder such as anxiety, depression or insomnia.

    Taylor's family and company said in their statement that they were saddened by the decision he felt he had to make and emphasized "more than ever the importance of reaching out for help if you or someone you love is suffering."


    https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-dies-after-struggle-with-post-covid-19-sympt



    At some point, we might want to take Covid seriously. Not that anyone should politicize a crisis, but last I heard, Trump was not President.
     
    #34     Jun 24, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The studies are showing that 0.4% to 0.7% of people who had COVID previously get re-infected. These are situations where the person is proven to have COVID by testing with proven negative tests & time between the two infections.

    This re-infection rate of under 1% sounds correct considering the constraints that the number only includes scenarios proven by case testing -- there are probably others who did not get tested who had mild cases. There is also the reality that many people who get COVID the first time modify their behavior to be more cautious after getting a severe case or being in the hospital -- this also reduces the probability of catching it a second time. Coupled with this is that in at least 60% of the people infected -- effective antibody immunity lasts at least 6 months.

    It is likely that variants increase re-infections; however I am not seeing medical studies with in-depth statistics on these scenarios yet.
     
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    #35     Jun 24, 2021
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  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    No,but most are immune from the chicken pox after they have it.Different viruses have different different immunity periods. So far it looks like covid will be a virus with a long immunity period after having it.Covid for me was like a long bad flu.I only get the flu around every 3 -5 years so Im thinking that might be the immunity period for covid for me at least.
     
    #36     Jun 24, 2021
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    Like I said, science is hard and you’re not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. But I will say that if the democrats are the party of the overwhelming percentage of doctors and scientists then I’m glad to be associated with that.
     
    #37     Jun 24, 2021
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    That part I would disagree with.Myself and every person I know that have had it have completely ignored safety precautions after having it.I was far more cautious prior to catching it than after.
     
    #38     Jun 24, 2021
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Thats why I would suggest getting the vaccine for those who haven't already had it,I would.Once the reinfection numbers start growing than we will have a better idea of how long immunity is after having it imo than I will get the vax.So far reinfection cases are minuscule.
     
    #39     Jun 24, 2021
  10. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    And what is your science background?
     
    #40     Jun 24, 2021
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