Meanwhile in the rest of the world...

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Mvic, Sep 16, 2008.

  1. Mvic


    Friday, Sept. 12, Moscow announced renovation had begun on the Syrian port of Tartus to provide Russia with its first long-term naval presence on the Mediterranean.

    As the two naval chiefs talked in Moscow, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov met Iranian foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki in the Russian capital for talks on the completion of the Bushehr nuclear power plant by the end of the year...

    The traumatic impact of the Georgia conflict on Russia’s rulers came through in the remarks of an unnamed Kremlin official quoted by the Russian media this week: “Everything has changed since the war with Georgia. What seemed impossible before is more than possible now when our friends become our enemies and our enemies our friends. Russia will respond. A number of possibilities are being considered, including hitting America where it hurts most – Iran and Syria.”
  2. Mvic


    September 18, 2008, 11:08 PM (GMT+02:00)

    Russian Navy in action
    Israeli military and naval commanders were taken by surprise by Rear Adm. Andrei Baranov's disclosure that 10 Russian warships are already anchored at the Syrian port of Tartus, DEBKAfile’s military sources report.

    Moscow and Damascus have worked fast to put in place the agreement reached in Moscow on Sept. 12 by Russian navy commander, Adm. Vladimir Wysotsky and Syrian naval commander Gen. Taleb al-Barri to provide the Russian fleet with a long-term base at Syrian ports. Israel was not aware that this many vessels were involved in the deal.

    What most worries Israeli military leaders is an earlier announcement by Adm. Wysotsky that Russia’s Mediterranean assets would subjected to its Black Sea fleet command, thereby placing Russia’s warships near Israel’s shores at the service of Moscow’s contest against the US and NATO in the Caucasian. It is feared that Israel will be dragged into another cold war.

    Rear Adm. Baranov disclosed that the warships in Tartus had brought engineering crews to widen and dredge the harbor to accommodate additional, fleet vessels. The crews were also working on expanding Latakia, another Syrian port, possibly for aircraft carriers or guided missile cruisers.

    The Russians are making no secret of their intention of using their naval presence in Syrian ports as a deterrent to a possible Israeli air strike against Syria.
  3. gucci


    Thanks for the link. Its really unbelievable. Instead of solving the problems the fcking politicians around the world create additional ones.:mad:
  4. The russians are so incompetent, they can't even keep their subs from sinking.

    Meanwhile, the israelies aren't afraid of anybody. When was the last time US was attacked and the attacker got away with it? That's how much US supports them:
  5. Mvic


    And it escalates while we are all too busy with our piggy banks...

    Syrian masses 10,000 commandos on border to invade N. Lebanon
    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

    September 23, 2008, 6:39 PM (GMT+02:00)

    Syrian deployment on Lebanese border: Commandos on right; positions on hill, trucks below
    Damascus is pressing forward with its plan to occupy Greater Tripoli, Lebanon’s second largest city and port, DEBKAfile's military sources report. To this end, 10,000 Syrian commando troops have massed at Abboudieh on the Lebanese border ready to follow an advance force which occupied seven villages around the northern city earlier this month, as first disclosed by DEBKAfile on Sept. 20. To read the article click HERE.

    A Lebanese army spokesman first denied the concentration while the mainstream Israeli media ran the official denial without checking the story out.

    However, when witnesses said the boosted Syrian deployment was visible from the Lebanese side of the border Tuesday, Sept. 23, the spokesman issued a new statement. He said Beirut had asked Damascus for clarifications and was told the measure was “internal and in no way directed against Lebanon.” This left the deployment with the option of striking at anti-Syrian militias operating outside the Lebanese army in the Tripoli region.

    Damascus stressed the move was linked to a crackdown against smugglers (sic).

    In yet another “clarification,” the measure was linked to digging new wells along the Syrian-Lebanese border.

    These various “clarifications” are so implausible that Damascus is obviously unconcerned about any serious challenge to its sudden build-up of a 10,000-strong special forces deployment.

    This sort of strength, say DEBKAfile’s military sources, is deployed for war operations, not anti-smuggling policing.

    Tuesday, unofficial Lebanese sources confirmed that Syrian commandos had occupied Wadi al-Ashaer, a village in the Rashaya district in the North.

    Our sources add that this is only one of the seven villages captured by an advance Syrian force in northern Lebanon last week, after which Damascus advised Washington and Paris not to interfere. It is now engaged in building fortifications and paving military road links for the main body of special forces to move in.

    Syrian occupation of northern Lebanon will make profound inroads on the strategic position of the United States and Israel in this part of the Middle East, yet Washington and Jerusalem are turning a blind eye.
  6. Mvic


    We are just sitting back and letting this happen, Russia making a major play in the mid east. One day we will wake up and we will be in a position where we HAVE to act, by then it won't be a question of small diplomatic action but something much more significant and that is what we should have the foresight to avoid by countering these steps with aggressive rehtoric and diplomatic action. A stich in time saves nine.
  7. Yes, but there is no secret that Russia (not Muslims) will be the strength behind the coming (and doomed to fail) attack against Israel.
  8. The operative phrase concerning empires is "overextend and die" One Empire is in the process of doing exactly that right now. Aparently Russian elites are flippingly stupid since they can't remember what happened to USSR and what is happening right now to USA.
  9. You guys who are supporters of the Anglosphere, global war of ideas, Neoconservatism, Zionism and not learning to live in peace with others...
    You will all ultimately fail - and it's ridiculous seeing your antirussian and antieuropean attitudes... Grow up already!
    You wonder why people become antiamerican? It's because of the way you behave.

    Go figure.

    Well, Debka has some independent views sometimes... but not on Russia.
    Neoconservatism had its inception with American Jews and their outrage with Russia - so they turned from Trotskyism and Strachmanists into "newly-returned conservatives" - hence "neoconservatism". They have been pouring their hatred for international organizations, Europe, the Middle East and Russia ever since. The struggle of Israel reverberates through all of Neoconservatism - and it is extremely polarizing everywhere it comes in contact with people and society, politics. It is a radical view founded in the same idea as the Abrahamic religions. That there are absolute truths, and that "someone" can claim to have and know the absolute truth - and that everyone else must align themselves to this truth.
  10. dhpar


    guys, are you serious you discuss anything based on propaganda from debka?
    #10     Sep 23, 2008