McCain's VP Pick

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cuz69, Aug 29, 2008.

  1. I'm no fan of neither taxes, subsidies or sector-specific tax-breaks... but they all exist and are part of the regulations for the US economy. You can't just ignore some parts of it; when you first have this system, you need to make it work. Excessive spending has created a tough problem, and you need to deal with it effectively. The Japanese, Chinese and others "own you"...
    :p

    The responsible thing to do is acknowledge the problem and start dealing with it, and of course it is not going to be painless.
     
    #191     Aug 31, 2008
  2. Damn why didn't McCain pick Buchanan ?

    Oh wait

    HE DID!!

    Yeeaaaaahhh
     
    #192     Aug 31, 2008
  3. This one??????

    The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.
     
    #193     Aug 31, 2008
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    #194     Aug 31, 2008
  5. You have a point there. I was exaggerating though, which you could obviously not have known. Should have said everything economic that liberals propose. Basically, larger government. Every liberal I have ever seen wants more gov programs. I am prolly more libertarian than independent I guess. I do have "set' goals where an independent does not. I am for a minimum of national government intrusion. Defense and social security maybe. Leave everything else up to the states.

    There are many social issues where I am very far to the left. Abortion rights, gun control, environment. I am about as left as you can get there.
     
    #195     Aug 31, 2008
  6. #196     Aug 31, 2008
  7. You're silly. The only way Obama goes to war is if he thinks he can gain some prestige out of it, i.e. bin Laden walks into a cave in Pakistan and dares Obama to come and get him.

    Other than that, BO will need permission from Europe and the UN before standing up to any kind of aggression on a large scale. Yeah, he may do some symbolic, harmless shit a la Clinton's missile attack on a pharmaceutical factory, but something serious? Can't offend our "allies" and have people disliking us, nosirree....Besides, what will the good Rev Wright think?

    Find that rack yet?
     
    #197     Aug 31, 2008
  8. Problem is that by historical standards, he should have received a much larger boost from the convention. Then you factor in the deep dissatisfaction with Bush, and dipping economy, and BO should be up 15 points min imo.

    It seems to me that people have already made up their minds for the most part. Other than some major scandal, these two guys are going to be damn near even till the election. I believe that when many people say they are undecided, they are lying and just don't wish to reveal who they want. These two guys are so different, I find it weird that you wouldn't know which (if any) for which you were voting. I don't like either one of them, but I know who I am voting for.

    Jay
     
    #198     Aug 31, 2008
  9. #199     Aug 31, 2008
  10. Jayford,

    just wanted to throw in some links for further reading. I have some friends that go to the objectivism seminars in the US every year, do speeches etc - but I do not agree on whole with objectivism, supernatural/naturalistic philosophical libertarianism or minarchism - although I think minarchism is very close to what I'd prefer, but structured differently. I usually get to a point with objectivists where they are unable to go further into details on epistemology.
    :)

    Well, as promised some interesting links - maybe some of you guys already have some ideas that you've picked up about your philosophical and political viewpoints over the years which are very coinciding with these... I sure have found out a lot more by reading up on other ideas through the years, but mostly start my views with the epistemology and phenomenology, thereafter going into the various aspects of systems theory, model theory etc and am closer in thinking to consequentialist libertarianism, although consequences are limited by the volatile nothingness and opaque details of future.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolibertarianism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incrementalism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism_and_Objectivism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_within_libertarianism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequentialist_libertarianism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontological_libertarianism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism_and_conservation_laws (Ron Paul is an avid supporter)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_peace_theory (Neoconservatives want to force this on everyone)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism (100% free market in every matter, closer to what I support)
     
    #200     Aug 31, 2008