McCain vs Obama: A repeat of the Reagan Landslide?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by skippyupwood, Jan 7, 2008.

  1. "any independent support for Obama should be discounted. At the same time the potential for an increased turnout among the young should be also ignored. Even the minority of students who have been genuinely energised by Barrack Obama will be much less likely to vote for him in November, when all the enthusiasm has died down and other things have taken hold of their imagination.

    In contrast a McCain ticket, especially one with Joe Lieberman on the bottom, would provide both experience and a proven ability to get things done. Although hard-core conservatives may not like his record of bipartisan deal-making, independents and even those on the centre-left, will ultimately choose someone who can at least ensure that some changes take place."

    Wow, what a profound analysis. 1. People who vote for change aren't going to vote; 2. People would prefer experience over enthusiasm, because experience will bring about change.

    That's how Clinton got into trouble in Iowa and NH. That will be how Clinton get defeated. And it seems that will also be how GOP get defeated.
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    Hmm. I am not sure about Minnesota. :D
  3. New SUSA result from Iowa, which Bush won in 2004:
    Sure looks like a landslide to me.
  4. Romney, the other "moderate" GOP candidate:
  5. Lucrum


    A friend of mine e-mailed me this. Any of you guys that follow politics know if any of it is true?

    "Who is Barack Obama?

    As a U.S presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in
    Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from
    Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from
    Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced.
    When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
    attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta.
    He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Obama takes great care
    to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. Muslims are taught that it is
    alright to lie to achive their goals.
    He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he
    also attended Catholic school.
    Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that
    Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
    influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned
    to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct
    influence over his son's education.
    Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
    introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a "Wahabi"
    school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed
    by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging "Jihad" against the
    western world.

    Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major
    public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined
    the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim

    The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
    out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
    President of the United States, one of their own!!!!

    ALSO, AND VERY IMPORTANT, keep in mind that when he was sworn into
    office - he "DID NOT" use the "Holy Bible", but instead the "Koran"."
  6. Is this a trick question? :D
  7. First off, let me state that I'm not an Obama supporter. He's about 5th on my list of candidates, but I would like to comment on his behalf. I've seen this circulated several times and I think it deserves a fair response.

    First off, every legitimate source that I've been able to find states that he was sworn in with his own copy of the BIBLE. Dick Cheney administered the oath. It seems that the rumor was started by a newspaper company that might have been inspired by Democrat legislator Keith Ellison who was sworn in with the Koran during 2007, making him the first in congress ever to do so. He borrowed Thomas Jefferson's copy of the Koran from the Library of Congress.

    The rest of the report is fairly accurate but biased with the intent of convincing the reader to be suspicious of Obama. It is true that his father didn't really have anything to do with him, and that his Muslim education was a result of having been raised in Indonesia. Attending a muslim school would be expected of anyone growing up there as the population is almost 90% muslim.

    He converted to Christianity in his 20's and from an objective point of view we have little reason to believe that he is not Christian.

    But when it really comes down to it, he can be Muslim if he wants to be. That doesn't disqualify him from being president of the "land of the free". If he wants to be sworn in with the Koran, it is well within his rights. But the fact that your article claims that he did use the Koran, pretty much discredits the author.

    Obama leads in a majority liberal state!!! :D <sarcasm>