McCain Caught In Outright Lies In Comparing Palin to Obama

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ByLoSellHi, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. From the Associated Press (damn liberal media letting facts get in the way of the deep right wing's fantasies):

    McCain's New Campaign Theme Song is 'Out of Touch' by Hall & Oates.

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    McCain's Obama - Palin comparison falls short

    Published: September 2, 2008
    Filed at 4:03 p.m. ET

    Republican presidential candidate John McCain says his vice presidential pick, Sarah Palin, was already an experienced government official while his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, was working as a community organizer.

    She wasn't. Palin was finishing college, getting married and working as a TV sportscaster when Obama was directing a church-based community group on Chicago's South Side in 1985-88.

    McCain sought to make the comparison in an appearance on Fox News Sunday, criticizing Obama as too inexperienced to be in the White House despite his choice of a running mate who's also being called too unseasoned for that role.

    Challenged about his vice presidential choice, McCain said as governor of Alaska for the last two years, Palin ''has had enormous responsibilities, none of which Senator Obama had.'' Later, McCain elaborated that ''as a governor, she has had executive experience. She didn't sit in the state legislature.''

    The same contrast could be made with McCain himself, whose entire 26-year political career has been spent in Congress.

    It's true that in recent years, more presidents have come from governorships than from legislative bodies. But it's a stretch to argue that running the statehouse in a small state is ideal preparation for the issues that will confront the next president, from wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to coping with a half-trillion-dollar budget deficit and serious energy and health-care problems.

    In the same interview, McCain continued the theme, noting that ''when she was in government, he was a community organizer.''

    That's incorrect. When Palin was first elected to the town council in Wasilla, Alaska, in the fall of 1992, Obama was wrapping up work in Chicago on a voter-registration drive. When that job ended, he joined a Chicago law firm and became a lecturer at the University of Chicago law school, and the Chicago Tribune picked him as one of ''25 Chicagoans on the road to making a difference.''

    Obama's community organizing career had come years earlier, in 1985-88.

    McCain also highlighted what he termed Palin's independent streak, praising her for often bucking her own party leaders.

    ''When she was taking tough positions against her own party, Senator Obama was voting 'present' 130 times in the state legislature, on every tough issue, whatever it was,'' McCain said.

    That charge was reminiscent of attacks waged on Obama by his fellow Democrats during this year's primary campaign, including Hillary Clinton and John Edwards.

    It's true that Obama voted ''present'' dozens of times, part of the thousands of votes he cast in an eight-year span in Springfield. Illinois lawmakers commonly vote that way on a variety of issues, and he has countered that many of those votes were cast because of technical or legal considerations about the underlying legislation.

    Often, Obama voted ''present'' with large groups of other Democrats to protest what they saw as Republican trickery or abuse of power. Other times, voting that way sends a message that a lawmaker supports a bill's intent, but has concerns about how the legislation is drafted. Voting this way also can be a way to duck a difficult issue, as McCain charged, although that's difficult to prove.

    There are also cases where legislators vote ''present'' as part of a strategy. Obama did this on some abortion measures, voting ''present'' to encourage some wavering legislators to do the same instead of voting ''yes''. Their ''present'' votes had the same effect as ''no'' votes, so getting them to vote present helped defeat the bills.
  2. Another editorial masquerading as news. This reads like it was written in Obama headquarters and probably was.

    The relevant comparison is Obama to McCain.
  3. I note that the article doesn't call anything a "lie". That's your word. But it certainly comes as no surprise, based on many of your other posts, that you have no respect for accuracy, fairness or propriety in this post.

  4. At least he didn't use his common device, 'I'm a Republican who just happens to support a socialist from a corrupt, ineffectual Chicago political machine for President....."
  5. I haven't been a Republican since Reagan left office.

    libertarian - small 'l.'

    If you're going to engage in personal attacks, at least get the background info right.
  6. So how does your small 'l" libertarianism fit in with increased taxes?

    Is there a SINGLE THING about Obama that strikes you as libertine? Is it Chicago's 5 and half dollars per pack tobacco tax?

    His support of the anti-2nd amendment ban on Chicago handguns?

    His strident opposition to choice in schools?

    Please tell me.

  7. Hmmnn.

    I am a SJ native, then MENLO PARK.

    SO what do you think? Menlo Park?

  8. I am 4.0 with high school. Univ of Utah, and Tbird.

    No one cares, Study!!!!
  9. I told you, I'm voting for Ron Paul. Yes, I really mean it. I know it won't be recorded as a vote, but I can't vote for either candidate or either party anymore.

    Who is the lesser of two evils between Obama and McCain? That's a really good question and one that I honestly don't know the answer to.

    I can tell you this: The Republican Party, including John McCain, has become as dangerous as the Democratic Party, if not more so.

    You let me know when Republicans fear the citizens of this country again and right-size government to its proper and rightful size. I've only seen Republicans grow government and its power and reach for over 20 years now.