McCain Admits Obama Not a Socialist

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by seneca_roman, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. On Larry King, McCain admits Obama is not a socialist. Here is the transcript:
    "KING: You don't believe Barack Obama is a socialist, do you?


    MCCAIN: No. But, I do believe -- I do believe that he's been in the far left of American politics. He has stated time after time that he believes in "spreading the wealth around." He's talked about courts that would redistribute the wealth.


    He has a record of voting against tax cuts and for tax increases. And I don't think there's any doubt that he would increase spending and he would, sooner or later, we would be increasing taxes. There is no doubt in my mind that that's what his record -- 94 times he voted to cut taxes -- against tax cuts and for tax increases. He voted for -- and that's what matters. Not rhetoric. To raise taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year.


    KING: Concerning spreading the wealth, isn't the graduated income tax spreading the wealth? If you and I paid more so that Jimmy can get some for him, or pay for a welfare recipient, that's spreading the wealth.


    MCCAIN: Well, that's spreading the wealth in the respect that we do have a graduated income tax. That's a far cry from taking from one group of Americans and giving to another. I mean, that's dramatically different.


    Sen. Obama clearly has talked about for years, redistributive policies. And that's not the way we create wealth in America. That's not the way we grow our economy. That's not the way we create jobs."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/obama-not-a-socialist-mcc_n_139294.html

    Seneca
     
  2. Obama's not a socialist, he's an outright communist. McCain is a socialist.
     
  3. Why don't you define for us what a communist is?

    S
     
  4. Obama is a community organizer, which is one step above a Marxist
     
  5. So was Jesus and a lot of others.

    I take it you can't define it because you are hindered by lack of intellectual curiosity.

    Here is a definition from a reliable source:

    1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
    2. Communism
    1. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
    2. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.

    So where does Obama advocate collective ownership. Show me that and I'll believe you are capable of thought.

    S
     
  6. Here is a list of community organizers for you to consider:
    Jesus Christ - former carpenter who got a core group of 12 to serve on his "steering committee", a second tier with about 72 and after that thousands of followers. Went around healing the sick and feeding the poor for about 3 years in Galilee.

    Martin Luther - put together a band of followers around his protest against the Holy See in Germany. Published a translation of the Bible into German to empower local peasants who couldn't read Latin.

    Sam Adams - created the Sons of Liberty in Boston Massachutsetts in response to acts of British Parliament. Without it we would still be singing God Save the Queen.

    Benjamin Franklin - created first public library system, first volunteer fire department in America in Philadelphia. Organized Continental Congress, founded the nation.

    George Washington - put together a little group called the "Continental Army" to fight the British. Originally a volunteer organization known as the "Minutemen" in April of 1775..defeated world's most powerful military by October of 1781 in Yorktown.

    William Lloyd Garrison - founded the American Anti-Slavery Society that fought for abolition of slavery in the United States.

    Lord Baden Powell - After campaigns in Africa during the Boer War, put together a little organization known as the "Boy Scouts", now a world wide youth organization for boys and young men.

    Juliette Gordon Low - founded the Girl Scouts of America to provide opportunities for girls and young women.

    Clara Barton - A nurse during the Civil War, created the American Red Cross - still today a volunteer organization that does phoenomenal work helping victims of natural disasters and home fires.

    William Booth - Founded the Salvation Army which takes care of the needy and provides shelter to the homeless.

    Martin Luther King Jr., Andrew Young, Jesse Jackson, Ralph David Abernathy, John Lewis, et. al. - Founded the SCLC and fought for equal rights for all Americans regardless of race during the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's.

    Susan B. Anthony - led the women's suffrage movement culminating in women being granted the vote in 1919.

    Sir George Williams - Founded the Young Men's Christian Association or YMCA which provides opportunities to learn and grow to many young people.

    Mahatma Gandhi - organized a community known as "India" to rebel against British rule through non-violent protest. Freed India from colonial rule in 1947.