Seems like the automatic mcafee antivirus updates are placing msn messenger in my startup menu. Is anyone having this problem ??? I don't want it in there. Of course mcafee is denying that their program is doing this, but I am almost 100% positive it is the mcafee updates doing this, since I remove the program (msmsgs) from the startup menu (run/msconfig/startup tab), & it does not get placed back in there even when I restart my machine, only when a mcafee upgrade is installed it is placed back in the startup. I check right after the mcafee upgrade & it is in the startup menu again. It's very annoying. Is it possible that ANOTHER program is placing it in there when an antivirus upgrade is installed ?? Thanks a lot for any help & good trading to all.