MBTrading, better than IB for the small retail trader?

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by Daal, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. Daal


    The have a fee structure that can be a little worse but the hidden fact is they pay the first '10k' with interest so the additional $400 you get a year should make up the difference(they dont try to lower their fees artificially and charge you later by not paying you a penny in interest so you can be seduced by their fee table), specially if your not a daytrader. The only thing I didn't like was the fact that the first wire is not free but if i dontput money I need for shopping on my broker so I can take that. Plus they have live chat and support that works. Free level data 1 information. Free Level 2 for some ETFs. Good software
    Is there any disvantage I'm not seeing here?
  2. I found they had frequent serious outages ( about 1.5 years ago). They also do not support all the complex option orders you have at IB.
  3. rayl


    I like MBT for its simple light weight UI for stocks & options, with decent routing (both auto and directed). But with my first need to buy outside the US, explored IB and am now slowly migrating to IB, keeping MBT as a backup.

    IB's UI is actually very efficient after 5 mins of using it. In my opinion, I find the order line paradigm muct better than the order ticket paradigm almost everyone else uses. Both are appropriate for "active" small retail traders and neither is appropriate for novice or less-active traders.

    Customer service is much more responsive at MBT, though, I am not convinced it is much more knowledgeable. As an example, I note that neither MBT nor IB will, as of this writing, let me route a pre-market ArcaEdge order via their software client. IB admitted to it and claimed their gurus are working to fix it. MBT advertises this capability on its order routing grid posted on its web site, but the software front end won't support it, and their customer service while very responsive insists that it's possible. (He was using an GMS test ticker I confirmed -- I gave up and took him up on his offer to call the trading desk when I need this. On the phone trading desk front, MBT wins.)

    The one aspect I haven't yet explored is comparing executions by Knight (the default MM for many OTC orders at IB) vs REDI(Goldman's subsid that is MM for many OTC orders at Penson, the underlying firm for which MBT acts as introducing broker). I've heard good things about both but haven't done a side-by-side.
  4. I'm no fan of the 10k 'game', but does MB give you a free futures feed? What's that worth?
  5. Go with IB. Like others said, complicated options are out of the question with MB. Software frequently disconnects, and quotes lag frequently. They also restart the server every night and balances/positions do not show up in the client properly because of this. MB CS is very good, but bad far outweighs the good.