Max Baucus on Obamacare

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bugscoe, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. Of course you're not and of course you do... and I suppose you trade profitably too :p

     
    #21     Mar 31, 2010
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    There are always anecdotes, and they are of little use, since everyone has a couple.

    I do not feel anyone is entitled to "leech", if you mean by that they get their living either without productive work, or they have no excuse to be without productive work.

    But I do recognize the structural, ie. institutional or other social arrangements that have strong causative effects and can produce unemployment and poverty. If I were talking about the same principle, but in reverse, for example how your hated liberals can create laws to take money away from the rich, then you'd agree that of course it can be done.
     
    #22     Mar 31, 2010
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    I no longer trade, but when I did, I did fine. I did not like the isolation.
     
    #23     Mar 31, 2010
  4. The same goes for excuses for failing to make it.
     
    #24     Mar 31, 2010
  5. #25     Mar 31, 2010
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Some excuses can be backed up by science. For example, do you believe that a comet passed nearby last year, and suddenly tens of millions who formerly worked became lazy and ended up on their couches?
     
    #26     Mar 31, 2010
  7. I believe from your posts that you're full of it and that you want handouts to give you what you can't give yourself.
     
    #27     Mar 31, 2010
  8. It's not a matter if I or you will become wealthy, it's a matter of respecting other peoples things.. There's laws prohibiting certain behaviors and there are taxes. If someone jumped through those hurdles-despite how undeserving they may be-well they won the lottery and I didn't. So be it. And money alone doesn't guarantee them health or happiness. But it's not like high earners aren't already paying their share in taxes and spending a bunch that helps keep the economy going.

    I've said it before and I''ll say it again, even though most urban and suburban school districts spend 10-15k per pupil, per year, the best hope for America's, entitlement bred, underclass is to hope there's enough "wealthy" guys to support them via taxes and employment. Leftists who want to introduce the Euro social model-as if it's doing so well in Greece, Spain and Portugal-had better walk the streets of America. This isn't Stockholm, it's Rio. And ironically, Brazil even with it's challenging demographic, is rocking because of pro-business policies, while Sweden, the fair haired model of socialism, can't retain a car company any better than America.

    The coming trend-whether "bleeding hearts" like you want to accept it-will be the simultaneous destruction of wealth and destruction of government. There ain't enough notional capital in the composite globe, to fund all of this government debt-most every developed country has debt to GDP of >40%-so the upheaval will be great. But the distressing-read dangerous part-is that even though the American underclass has completely WASTED, trillions in resources-i.e. free education and affirmative access, they'll still have misguided fucks telling you how they got the short end of the stick. Ever notice how Asians-like my parents-came here with no money, no English, no friends and made it happen? It's not societies obligation to lift every boat. It's societies goal to keep the fleet afloat. If not we can look to Cuba and say, "Hey, no starvation in Havana!! They're a great place!!" If so, then you and Michael Moore can go live there.




     
    #28     Mar 31, 2010
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    So you tend towards the comet explanation then?
     
    #29     Mar 31, 2010
  10. I tend toward the explanation that you're yet another unsuccessful ET poser (see below).

    I'm puzzling over the difference between win-rate and expectancy...
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=701206#post701206

    Still, these replies have helped enormously while I continue to study equity trading, which I hope to do when I have more capital.
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=701879#post701879

     
    #30     Mar 31, 2010