Maverick74 and marketsurfer's TopstepTrader Combine (daily trade reports and journal)

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by TST_Hoag, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. volente_00

    volente_00

    Who is going to pay $200 an hour attorney fee to sue for a $160 combine ?

    95% of the people in the combine can't even muster up a few k to even open a futures account
     
    #151     Oct 2, 2012
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    OK, I don't agree. If I ran this operation I would do exactly the same thing. Actually, I would make it longer and would try to eliminate the element of luck more then it is now but I would not allow any trader to game the system. It's pointless for all parties involved. Again, no is forced to do this and everything on their website is pretty transparent. There are two other firms doing EXACTLY the same thing using exactly the same language. I suspect they copied each other. I've talked to the guy on here who is funded and he had no issues with what they asked of him after the further trading days were requested. As I said before, it's pointless for a bad trader to simply pass this combine on luck as he will never get a dollar out of it.
     
    #152     Oct 2, 2012
  3. Are you serious? People live to sue. R/R rarely comes into that equation. They're suing for breach, not the $160.
     
    #153     Oct 2, 2012
  4. It's a lottery operation and it's probably a gold-mine until their backer stops funding or it's shown that they're not really allocating $50 large to each trader.

    Who would enter into such an agreement that relies on the whims of mgmt to fund you? If you win the combine you should be funded, period.
     
    #154     Oct 2, 2012
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    No, you are not listening. He can get funded all he wants, he'll never take a check home. So why do it? Look, let's use Surf as an example. Let's say Surf can't trade his way out of a paper bag but swings for the moon and passes on pure luck. Now he gets funded right? What the fuck is he suppose to do now? LOL. He can't trade. Is he going to sign up for a market newsletter service now? He'll never profit off of this. That's my point. I think we are arguing different things. I'm simply saying, the guy will never take a check home and he knows it. So why even try?
     
    #155     Oct 2, 2012
  6. volente_00

    volente_00

    So they win specific performance and get to trade live a $1500 account and then fired if they lose 500




    Combine revenues are grossing min of 28k a month, i'm sure they can afford a decent attorney if needed
     
    #156     Oct 2, 2012
  7. Fuck man, I know it's a money maker for Patak. I am implying it's a shit deal for anyone BUT Patak. Anyway, I am done here. You're making my head hurt. ;)
     
    #157     Oct 2, 2012
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    That's actually a very funny example, for rather obvious reasons. :D
     
    #158     Oct 2, 2012
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    That was just an "example". I'm sure Surf is a fantastic trader.
     
    #159     Oct 2, 2012
  10. No, man, we aren't arguing different things. You are saying that a person can meet the objective criteria (profit $3500, within loss limits, etc.) and you support Patak denying funding to that person based on nonobjective criteria. I'm saying that's not cool and makes the situation ripe for abuse.

    In Surf's case, he failed to meet the objective criteria and is ineligible for funding even if he were to get to $3500. The combine has parameters for daily loss and profit volatility that knock him out.
     
    #160     Oct 2, 2012