Mathematically Predicting the Future?

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by MarkBrown, Oct 27, 2007.

  1. Mark,

    I'm kinda late boarding this thread...

    But it's really nice to have you back on ET. I'm posting again just because you're here!!!

    "Your secret admirer" and "Self proclaiming padwan"

    (FYI. I asked you for advice intraday trading using tick data for the ES market a while back...

    also... I asked you about moving to Chicago from LA, a long time ago... and you gave me valuable advice and some contacts...

    That's who I am...)
     
    #81     Nov 14, 2007
  2. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    kool.. hope all is well with you, i still love chi town.

    yea like a big fat whale i surface for air once in a great while. mb
     
    #82     Nov 14, 2007
  3. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    back to predicting - i would say that the law of motion theory lends more potential than anything to easily predict future price movement. it is simple and effective as a primer to finding a confidence level to build upon.

    mb
     
    #83     Nov 14, 2007
  4. Yes. I wouldn't use the term "predicting" but all systems are based on the "assumption" that the specific tendency the system exposes sustains... And... Risk management deals with the impact of when the "assumption" changes.

    They're both Math. Considering MATH being used in all levels of "trading", it may be the only viable tool for a System trader, next to Computer Science (algos) if it's not considered as MATH.
     
    #84     Nov 15, 2007
  5. I do...Use math...
    do the trend if above /Below 5 days sma
    all these should do well for next 20 to 34 days
    dell is a buy these days

    Stock Trend
    APOL Buy
    BBBY Sell
    BEAS Sell
    CELG Sell
    CHKP Sell
    CHRW Sell
    DELL Buy
    FAST Sell
    FLEX Buy
    GILD Sell
    GRMN Buy
    IACI Buy
    JOYG Sell
    LBTYA Buy
    MCHP Sell
    MNST Buy
    PTEN Sell
    QCOM Sell
    ROST Sell
    RYAAY Buy
    SIRI Buy
    TLAB Buy
    UAUA Buy
    VMED Buy
    WFMI Buy
    XLNX Sell
    XMSR Buy
    XRAY Buy
     
    #85     Apr 24, 2008
  6. Interesting, but how did you come up with these hard-and-fast numbers:
    5
    20
    34
    ?
    Why not 10, 30, 50 for instance ?

    And this smoothing technique:"sma"
    Why not EMA, JMA, TRIX, DEMA ?

    Also, would these change things over time as the market volatility changed ?

    You make this sound so simple.
     
    #86     Apr 24, 2008
  7. just used Max(High(t)/Close(t-1),Close(t-1)/Low(t))
    Daily data

    with those nubers into an array
    The average-1= a number >0
    since change/ day as in the above... % change/day

    then days/change = inverse

    so u take the 1/(average-1) as your estimated half cycle
    the more the volitility
    the smaller the cycle
     
    #87     Apr 24, 2008
  8. days in here are trade days

    so calender days = 365/250* trade days

    the cycles are on that column

    I did not want to fill the page
    those coef and stdev of coef

    used to do trades
    using the close of any day
    offset it to your advantage by either dividing
    or mutliplying
    Say u want to buy apol

    take apol close and divide by that coef
    1.036041879
    that is the estimated next low
    if u add 2*stdev to that average
    that will get the 5th percentile of the lower prices of the prices

    Coef(5th Percentile)=1.036041879+2*0.036125915

    gl



    Stock Trend High Low Close Cycle Days AVG Coef STD Coef
    APOL Buy 48.81 43.54 46.81 28 1.036041879 0.036125915
    BBBY Sell 33.28 29.89 32.01 36 1.028254202 0.016544792
    BEAS Sell 19.27 19.16 19.2 45 1.022272561 0.030850537
    CELG Sell 65.85 62.23 63.56 37 1.027721474 0.022208292
    CHKP Sell 24.58 22.01 23.92 40 1.025584911 0.013882118
    CHRW Sell 63.09 56.33 62.33 39 1.025943552 0.014948183
    DELL Buy 19.99 18.50 19.05 39 1.025645238 0.015977614
    FAST Sell 51.07 47.64 48.83 37 1.027675023 0.017606017
     
    #88     Apr 24, 2008
  9. bellman

    bellman

    you are correct to assert that the markets are not random, but the basis of your argument is flawed: random numbers are not proved to be random only when they fit in a normal distribution, otherwise they wouldn't be random.

     
    #89     Apr 24, 2008
  10. bellman

    bellman

    dude, why are you quoting yourself???

    :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
    #90     Apr 24, 2008