Mathematical expectation

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Visaria, Jul 30, 2014.

  1. Visaria

    Visaria

    Ok, let's say i have a strategy for futures trading. Is it possible to determine the ev, positive or negative of this strategy?
     
    #11     Jul 30, 2014
  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Just add up your trade returns and divide by the number of trades. That's your expected value aka expectation (no such thing as 'expectancy'). Also no need to calculate variance.
     
    #12     Jul 30, 2014
  3. Visaria

    Visaria

    that is historical. i want to know the ev going forward. is it possible? i suspect not.
     
    #13     Jul 30, 2014
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    This is false. That is your mean. Expected value requires you to assign probabilities to all the possible outcomes and sum up those values. To solve for the probabilities you will need to know the variance. Simply take a mean of anything is NOT what you want to do.
     
    #14     Jul 30, 2014
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    The best way to do this is with a monte carlo simulation.
     
    #15     Jul 30, 2014
  6. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Dead wrong. I'll leave it to you to figure out why.
     
    #16     Jul 30, 2014
  7. Visaria

    Visaria

    what would my inputs be?
     
    #17     Jul 30, 2014
  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    There are several ways to go about this depending on how technical and deep you want to go. If you want to test how "robust" your strategy is, I would test each of the parameters that you use to generate a trade signal which could be done through the OLS method.

    If you want to test the "results" of your strategy and measure your actual return vs what it's true expected value is, run the monte carlo. The monte carlo can provide very accurate feedback on "expected drawdown" vs actual and a more accurate expected value by manipulating some of the trade data. All that is required with this approach is imputing your actual trades and deciding how many trial runs you want to use.
     
    #18     Jul 30, 2014
  9. Visaria

    Visaria

    Thanks Mav and others too. Going to leave this for the time being, I'm going on vacation tomorrow and will look into this when i come back.
     
    #19     Jul 30, 2014
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Don't be scared by this stuff. There is a lot of great software out there that makes this stuff very easy and the results can be eye opening. Good luck!
     
    #20     Jul 30, 2014