LOL.... stop being a hypocrite Shoe. Theists trash talk all the time. Want proof? Quotes from TradeForChrist: 1) So YOU shut the hell up!! 2) You are obviously delusional.Seek help immediately. 3) What a loser. 4) You are a sad miserable person. 5) You poor pathetic little person I rest my case. peace axeman
No thanks. Let's just say you, Longshot, stu and Gordon Gekko have a different debating "style" that doesn't interest me and leave it at that...
You cant put Longshot & GG in the same category, or I can put TradeForChrist in with YOU. peace axeman
No.... im just a mirror when it comes to civility. Im getting too old to take shit from people If someone goes off on me like TradeForChrist or Longshot does, I dont hold back. peace axeman
And, yes, your responses are generally much, much better thought out than LongShot - he tends to just fire off a sentence and then throw out a couple of insults and then run off for awhile and repeat...
I am sorry you feel that way shoeshine, I see no trash talk, I made none, I intended none. I think your response is uncalled for and unreasonable My take of your remarks is that you are offended by an alternative view which is not acquiescent to your way of thinking. Whilst at the same time you invite others to re-interpret that which is already written into the Bible. I posted nothing offensive nor anything intended to be offensive. My comments were measured and respectful, although anything which questions the veracity of the basics, seem to annoy you. My reference is to allegorical story telling. Tales which are constructed for a purpose but which bear no or little relationship to fact. That is all directly connected to your comments and Turokâs response to you and others. You want to hand wave away my observations and comments then fine, but the least you could do would be less dismissive of things you don't like the sound of, but which do make some sense.. I just may be right! Thanks axeman for your comments. Perhaps when/if Turok returns, he may like to comment on whether my viewpoint was trash talk. I would be interested to hear.
Yeah, and this is just about to kill me as I'm dying to "debate" it! My blood just starts to boil when I read all the side comments and I know if I start insulting back I'll never hear the end of it from axe.
in my opinion, if i may respectfuly suggest, that's where your thinking goes astray. assuming there is supposed to be some obvious, consistent message from disparate writers scatttered across continents and millenia is about the same as going to home depot, buying hammer, and assuming the CEO of Stanley wants you to build a house with it. Talmud - basically a record of Jewish arguments over scripture - at one point refers to Tanakh - what c'ians call the "old testament" - as being a collection of stories for women, children and the feeble-minded. yet we preserve it - because the value isn't in the writing, it is in the reading and deconstructing. scripture isn't going to give you the answers - but you shouldn't expect it to because it was never meant to. Israel -> "to struggle with G-d". abraham is important not because he was the "first" monotheist - but because he challenged G-d. because he was the first to demand from G-d a covenant as tought as the one people believed G-d demanded of them. if you want to get ultra-allegorical about it, abraham is important because he is the first to create a god in his own image rather than assume he is a reflection of a godly image. struggle. argue. challenge. create. life is not static. anything static -> dies. beliefs should not be static. consistency -> staticism. let go of the idea that scripture is meant to tell you "something" and look at it as a tool to initiate a never-ending process. that there is more than one path is a fundamental tenet of judaism.